Your Thoughts on Pacquiao being on PEDS as of 13/05/2011?

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  1. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As one of Pacquiao's biggest critics (actually Roach and Arum's biggest critics)...and also being a Die-Hard Mayweather fan. I have never believed that Pacquiao was a "user". In fact...there was a thread that was created that specifically ask "How many Mayweather fans actually believe that Pacquiao uses PED's?" And over-whelmingly...the vast majority of Floyd Fans doesn't believe or thinks that Pacquiao is a "user". And I remember the results actually surprised the thread-starter (can't recall who started the thread).
     
  2. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Manny was moving up, fighting at the same weight as he was at 130, in ring, and was obviously up against it, with the power, I'd consider that pretty natural.

    When the guy's considerably more powerful, at 146, than he ever was at 130, weighing exactly the same, and going from having huge weight advantages, to huge weight disadvantages, you've got to ask questions.

    Manny was 146 in ring with Barrera 2. And 146 in ring with Mosely.

    What's changed physically? Could you imagine Barrera going 12 rounds with him now? Why not? He's the same size, supposedly.

    It's impossible to add power, without weight, naturally. It's the fundamental principle of biology.

    HGH was invented, to get around that. To add, synthetic, lean, power.
     
  3. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    or maybe because he drained 16 lbs to make 130 you stupid clown
     
  4. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on. Seriously. I'd testify against my own gran, for a million bucks
     
  5. Relentless

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    no it wasn't.

    But yes manny is on peds, so what?
     
  6. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So why's the guy 142 in training camp, telling everyone he struggles to bulk up?

    What you're basically saying is Manny is a natural Welterweight.

    No he's not. He's 146 in ring.

    He's a Super Featherweight, fighting at 147
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    freaks of nature come along every once in a while. I don't see anyone other than Pac in the last 20-30 years. Henry Armstrong was walking down fighters who had 15 pounds on him. Not knocking them out but literally walking them down.

    Pac fought Barrera at featherweight and layed a massive beatdown on him. He fought Marquez at featherweight and decked him 3 times in a single round. And he was moving UP in weight to fight those guys. We're talking about certified greats here, not guys like Margarito. Pac knocked out Morales twice. Probably the most iron-chinned fighter in all of sports and Pac had him on the floor every 5 seconds. The guy who 5 years later stood up to Maidana's bombs and told him "give me more".

    Pac has always had dynamite in his fists. His KO ratio since the Hatton fight has dropped significantly though (1 KO in 4 fights). In his days at 122, Pac had 10 wins, 10 knockouts.

    I think those who's eyebrows are raised at Pac's recent fights just show their ignorance about the sport and Pac's career.
     
  8. Ak47

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    Marquez and Barrera are Mexican warriors who know how to box unlike Margarito. They werent given major beatdowns like Margarito because they actually hit Manny back not because Manny hit them less hard.
     
  9. c4pacfan

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    this applies to the Mayweather's, haters and the *****s.
     
  10. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    athletes take PEDs in all sports I can't see why boxing where your life is on the line and the control is inexistent should be an exception. Personally I believe that most of the top boxers are on peds. Obviously I have no proof whatsoever
     
  11. CoDer

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    These are ignorant fools indeed.

    For them to missed that Pacman's KO percentage drop at a significant level?

    Oh boy.
     
  12. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    just look at both the marquez2 and barrera2 weigh-ins... pac was already so weight-drained trying to make 130 at that time.

    @147, pac doesn't have to drain himself at all to make weight as his actual fighting weight is just 1-2 lbs. above the welter limit. not draining himself actually benefitted him when it comes to his strength, power and punch resistance.
     
  13. Exactabox

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    At the end of the day Manny is a level above all the fighters out there. PED's or Not.
     
  14. simon850

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    What would your thoughts be if he actually was found to be juicing?
     
  15. scrolllock

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    *****s and butt hurt people are in full blast to discredit pacman

    cuz their beloved void gayweather is being criticized by the whole well known boxing personalities. even other sports knows whos the duck and the chicken

    poor *****s, if this will help you out not to commit mass suicide, have your way dude