No matter what, the Floyd-Pac-PED debate comes back to the IRREFUTABLE point...

Pac has sorta agreed, but Roach and Arum havent.

 

He said it once in the US... Was found out to be untrue. His camp probably told him not to do that **** again as it upset people who actually care. If he's lied in the US what's stopping him from lying over there? Nobody over there would ever question it.

You clearly show that you don't care so what good would that be? Pac said he agreed to everything without cutoff. His camp later said they agreed to everything with a 7 day cutoff. NOWHERE in previous negotiations was 7 days ever agreed on so logic tells us it was the same negotiations correct?!

 

This is what I fear is going on. Pac may very well have agreed and be willing to agree to everything, but his camp haven't/won't.

 

"Probably"...that kid of **** means nothing Div. Again, I aksed for the dates. You can't just say he lied unless you know WHEN he said each.

You pick and choose the info to use for your argument. And dismiss what you want.

As for him lying "over there", what lie? Look, the point is, he SAID HE'D TAKE TEST. The order doesn't even necessarily matter if Floyd would call the bluff. Got that?

Floyd can say, "You claimed you would take the test anytime. Lets start again." Got that? Flopyd can USE IT to his advantage. I don't see how you cannot get that.

 

Everytime Floys asked for PED blood tests, Pac could have agreed, if he is clean why on Earth reject a $60m payday, and a lifetime of plaudits and praise??? :think:think:think

 

A fight vs. Floyd isn't likely to pay Pac 60 mill.

Besides, who's the one missing paydays. They guy who just took him $20 mill, or the dude at home beating women and security guards?

 

Probably doesn't mean **** and isn't fact, I'll give you that. I don't have actual dates as I don't think that's public information.

How does the order not matter? Pac says one day 'I agreed to everything without cutoff'. His team who represents him says 'We agreed to everything with a 7 day cutoff' AFTER. If that was Floyd you know damn well you and the rest of ESB would be all over it. The double standards are so transparent.

Everytime Floyd goes in the media he says 'If he takes the test he gets the fight' but everytime he says that you guys say Pac already agreed! He's called him out plenty of times but whenever he does it's ignored. :yep

 

I agree on Floyd been a shitty person and Pac making a lot of money without him.

BUT

I also think that if Pac was clean, he would have took the tests before, and if he is cleam he should do the tests in the fight vs JMM, just to prove himself clean (now that his great guy persona is in peril).
You gotta understand that Pac isn't Shane Mosley, he can't admit the use of roids, Manny Pacquiao is a politician, a semi-god in his country, if he gets caught his dreams will be shattered, we are speaking of someone that in 5 years could be running for president of the philliphines, you *******s are so delusional with your idol, I'm not a *****, im just realist, i wouldnt care if Pac was on roids in the past, I just want to be sure that in his nexts fights he comes clean, i want to know if he is really an ATG or just a HOF that happened to be overprotected while using PEDs

 

This comment is so stupid it doesn't even deserve a response.

Boxing is a sport where you are at BEST guaranteed brain damage and at WOST might die. I don't disrespect any man asking for a fair fight.

The majority are ignorant fools who have never stepped foot in a Boxing gym so therefore think the fairytale of "getting better when you are old" is true. That is who you are siding with?

That is what he did you fool. Pac ran! He even negotiated away from a 0 day testing cut off. The people raising the ruckus was Team Pac.

The fact Pac won't take the tests backs up his claims perfectly. You have suspicions your girl is cheating and you ask to see her phone and she says no does that increase or decrease your suspicion? You guys are fools!

 

Yes there is. The evidence is Pac's career. Nobody has won that many titles for a specific reason... It wasn't humanly possible! That alone is suspicious. That was the only basis needed to screw Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, and a whole host of other athletes, yet Pac is beyond suspicion? :roll:

Because it is stupid to do so. Testing that costs even as little as $5k would RUIN small time fighters. To play dumb on this is well... *******ish.

No, it is not. There are a million and one checks before a man becomes President. Boxing drug testing is KNOWN to be cheatable. Why do *******s fool themselves? :think

 

Then Pac doesn't WANT to fight then right?

 

unfortunetly, its the modern attitude to point and judge. If anyone achieves a huge amount, setting records and beating all competition, they are gonna get accused of foul play. I mean, look at Barcelona, just because they have become the best football team in the world right now, Jose Mouriniho (who is just as opinionated as Mayweather Snr) has accused them if being over friendly, and influencial on the governing bodies (FIFA) decisions in their games.

Haters are always gonna Hate, do your part by ignoring them.

 

I can't beleive it, grown men that worship Pac & Floyd like 12-years-old girls, you guys would start a cat fight with anyone who says something bad about your idol, and you transform any thread into a Pac vs Floyd argument.

Can't you guys man up and admit that Pac may be on PEDs and that Mayweather is scared of that because he beleives that he may not me good enough to outskill a RoidSpeedDemon and he doesn't want any chances to lose his 0?

It isn't that hard to admit, for example, I'm from Tijuana. MX, and I can totally tell that Margarito is a cheater, and that Canelo and Chavez Jr are both hypejobs made to trick casual fans and make easy money out of some of my ******ed fellow country men, without getting crazy or speaking sh1t of their opponents.

 

Give me a good reason WHY it is imhuman for someone to achieve what Pac has? just because no one has done it before? am I right in saying DLH set the previous record? so why cant Pac do it?

records are set to be broken, its the same as saying Usain Bolt cheated at the olympics, because no one has done what he has before. Or that the first man to fly a plane across the atlantic is a cheat because no one done it before, **** it, why not say Obama cheated because no black has ever been president before?

Im no Pac ****, ****, I think Floyd would beat him, he just needs to grow some balls and do it. Stop pointing fingers, making excuses, be the man you say you are and do it, or let regret haunt you forever.