Mayweather Jr praises Filipinos' love for Pacquiao, criticizes "Black America"

Hahaha, I also found your politics pretty cool. :good

 

Good points. This doesn't apply to all instances, but the dynamic is there, I agree.

 

Same here. Whoa...this is weird...:shock:

 

False analogy. Dress codes is written and known before you even approach the establishment.
His demand for OSDT is more akin to the security guard suddenly telling you he just implemented a rule specifically for you that never existed before.

 

Exactly.


We must also remember that for the Capitalist stirring the pot (Boxing promoters, media, politicians, etc...) there is money to be made on both sides of the bargain. The rallying (for the right or wrong of it) around the Black celebrity by Blacks. The rallying for his downfall by Whites. Pay to see him win or lose it is all ticket sales. They have little incentive to step in and resolve the actual issue.

I think that deep down though? Especially for a guy like Mayweather who has worked so hard, the crap hurts like hell no matter how much he makes off of it. The guys who do this and are happy with it are ice cold. That just isn't Mayweather's heart.

 

its not that they dont support you floyd, its just they are too poor to buy your ppv's.

 

I'm not sure I agree with this, as mentioned in other posts. Which is ok, and makes sense based upon what we've been talking about here: Floyd is the proxy for some black Americans. Which is ok. Miguel Cotto is the proxy for some Puerto Ricans, The Klitschkos for some Europeans and whites, etc. That's how it works, psychology-wise.

I think Houseof7GB made some good points, even if they weren't perhaps perfectly stated or the 'last word' on the subject.

 

No perfect analogy. Now you are just trying to rewrite history.

Mayweather asked for drug testing the first fight. Mayweather said, "No test. No fight. Not negotiable." after the Mosley fight. So the drug testing requirement is "written and known before Pac even approaches the establishment." Right?

So if you want to "party" in the ring with Mayweather you KNOW you MUST take the FROSDT. Stop trying to make this into something it isn't. Want to fight? Take the test. That is all. :thumbsup

 

Very true. When talking about human behavior there are always exceptions.

 

awwwwww

 

:rofl

 

Nice theory but the most successful "black" American athlete in the entire world is... Tiger Woods - whose image during his peak was as clean as boring as you can get.

He transcended the sport purely on his athletic success and way of winning (domination and often coming from behind - clutch). No trash talking. Confident without combative or dismissive.

What you also fail to mention is that "plain blacks" are often attacked not by white America but black Americans themselves. They are labeled as Uncle Toms and Sell outs.
Hopkins vs McNabb for example. Often for no good reason just being successful and not playing to the "young, confident, successful" stereotype you describe PBF as.

Boring, plain, educated, successful blacks turn in to.... President of the USA. Who was voted in by white America.

Carlton and Urkel are fictional characters. Not to mention they are intended for entertainment and by definition are not plain or boring.

Fixed. You make it sound like soul selling is only done by blacks for racial success purposes. From rock bands, actors, directors, writers, paper pushers in the office, - we all do some compromises in order to achieve fame and fortune. Often it has nothing to do with race.

That argument is arcane as my grandfather's Pinto. And just as relevant.

 

Oh yeah. I mean to support FMJ as a fighter definitely has something to do with race. I didn't mean it like that. After the initial support there is the matter at hand, drug testing.

Personally I see this as a fairly simple issue. If you want to fight? Drug test. If you don't want to fight? Don't. To state you won't drug test means to state that you don't want to fight (drug tested).

I have never had a problem with Pac's position if it was the position of the principal of this. Problem is that if this is a decision based on principal how do the dates and reasons change? If Pac just told Mayweather to pound sand? Great. Instead he entered into negotiations and kept balking at the drug testing portion. Even when Mayweather bent down to 50/50 (14 days).

It just no longer looks as though this is about principals. This is either about hiding something or about using Mayweather as the scapegoat to make safer, but lucrative alternative fights. In either case it is damaging to Boxing.

 

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Some of what you're saying is, I think, true. Other of what you're saying isn't.

Mayweather can be young, confident, and successful and not: Get into legal problems involving domestic violence; not start a PED Accusation War against the most popular fighter in the sport; go into the 'make it rain' caricature of the 'gangsta' youth.

You might think that is Floyd 'being real,' but it sounds like that wasn't who he was to start his career. So, which is Real Floyd and which is Fake Floyd? And are you being scammed about which is Real Floyd because you want to be? This is part of the lure, the hook. This is why guys do this, adopt a persona.

The whole Common/Obama thing was clearly a political attack that was outsized for the incident.

Again, the Obama thing I was alluding to is not about "being equal." If it were, he would not be in office. It has to do with how Team Obama conducts its politics, its strategy. Think of what was going on during the health care debate. Forget about the Tea Party people; just remember what was being said about those that opposed the health care plan. That's the Chicago politics I'm talking about. Obama's team embraces those tactics, and that exacerbates attitudes towards him/them. And that is intentional. It's a method. One can think it's good or not good, the method, but it is a method. And one that Team Obama uses.