Mayweather Jr praises Filipinos' love for Pacquiao, criticizes "Black America"

Come on man. Golf is a skill (less physical) sport of the elite classes. Woods is Black in hue only. His perverse fetish with White women tells you all you need to know about where his head was at. (Not saying that liking Blondes is bad, but when you are bedding down 25+ cookie cutter versions of the same chick it is a bit beyond being a bit horny.)

Mmm... Again his acceptance was more about his being the calorie free version of being Black. All of the athletic prowess, none of the lower class anger.

Dude I didn't forget that. Everyone is negatively affected by racism. Even the victims themselves. I have been to countless brown countries only to turn on the television and look at magazines to see people with European features. Racism's tentacles have reached in and infecteced damn near every race with self-doubt. Since Blacks have the least chance of conforming physically they have embraced rebelling.

You are taking this off on a tangent. I am saying these people are not marketable to pop culture not that these people aren't successful. Hell I am one of them!

No. It is done by all races. The Asian man who takes roles and is forced to speak in broken English when he can speak English fluently. The Asian men who want to act, but can't get a role to save their lives because they aren't Jackie Chan or Jet Lee. The casting of ANY Asian as ANY Asian even though they are a diverse population with diverse cultures. The Mexican guy who can only get roles as a gang banger. Etc...

Minority soul selling is a bit different than being part of the majority and soul selling. This is not to say that Whites don't sell their souls for fame either.

 

And Floyd exemplifies and encourages this type of attitude himself. He flat out called Gatti a bum, tried to discredit guys like De La Hoya and Mosley as opponents because they had a few losses. His attitude towards Pac is dispicable, and it's mainly because of his jealousy/bitchiness and his disrespectful attitude towards other fighters that he doesn't get the support he craves. It's not a black thing, not that long ago Tyson and Holy at their peak were shown alot of love and support by Americans. It's his character he should question

 

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See, this is a perfect example of the inherent racism built into society. Have you ever stopped to think that this may be a bitter annoying woman? She has a history of false claims. Why is the "making it rain" a "caricature", but Wall Street (White) rich guys buying hookers and blow cool?

This is the ingrained racism in our society. You are YOU so YOU are bad! You do that so THAT is bad! Same BS has Asians feeling guilty for eating dogs. WTF are you guilty for? You are doing YOU. Be proud.

I don't think FMJ is doing anything but enjoying his life and feeling the pain of loneliness that comes with success. What man wouldn't want to be fawned over by beautiful women, drive fast cars, wear fancy jewelry, etc... You think FMJ invented this stuff? No.

Tons of cash made by a blue collar guy begets this BS. You run in circles with people who you have nothing in common with and feel alone. So you bring along a bunch of regular folk with you. The money starts making everyone a bit crazy.

Not sure how old you are, but if you have your crap together life gets a bit lonely for any focused productive man. Then to have ignoramuses like Kenny, Raphael, Merchant, etc... talking about what you fear? It may just be a bit much to bear.

The attack couldn't happen if people gave a damn about more than just race hate.

I get what you were alluding to, disagree and think it is deeper. My point is that the line in American politics is as plain as day. There is the (old) White side and the rest of them. Looking at the crowds at Obama's victory speech and McCain's concession speech tells you exactly where the BS in American politics is rooted.

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Nope. Phils support a winner. Just ask Bautista, Banal and Suico, mayol and many others. Who are hyped and got exposed.I think it's about giving it all ya gots. And PACQUIAO has earnt that support. Every time he is in the square RING. He gives 110 percent for the country. I'd like to think Filos support each other no matter what but it is not true.


PACQUIAO HAS EARNT THAT RESPECT AND FULL SUPPORT!!

 

What does his "white woman fetish" have to do with anything?
His success and mass appeal where there in abundance before any revelation about his sexual exploits. In fact, he was more successful before that was known.

And so what if golf is sport of the elite? His popularity and acceptance transcended the prototypical golfer.
Which also bolsters my argument since his acceptance in both the supposed "white elite" and middle class whites and "lower class blacks" and everything in between counters your argument. You can be boring or you can be controversial. So many factors play in to your mass appeal.

So is a lot of white atheletes that have "calorie free" personalities have success - Joe Montana, Pete Samprass, Wayne Gretzky.

Ali, TO, PBF, Iverson, - all successful with millions under name not only in athletic prizes but promotional fees!!
Blacks with "lower class anger". ****, Iverson got more second chances than a cat got lives. Even after his blowout in NY, he was still being pursued in the US and in EUROPE! And probably even in Asia.

Where they hugged like calorie free perosnalities like Tiger and Montana? Of course not. But that is no different than your typical human dymanics. Even in your family I doubt you have the same relationship with the black sheep of the family no matter how financially successful or talented that family member is.

No - I am saying that success and mass appeal is far more complex and not quite so simple as you say, especially in regards to the factors of race. And not only that, race is playing smaller and smaller role, at least he in America, when you are talking about mass appeal and marketability. While "looks" looks still play a part, this has to do more with aesthetics than sinister racism. A white girl in Oklahoma will relate easier and quicker to a white celebrity just like a black kid in Africa will relate quicker to a black celebrity. That is not racism.

No it is not.

 

Thought he wanted to be the villain?!

 

Exactly.

 

What the boxing public most of all wants to see, is a fighter who is willing to take immense damage to get the KO. They want to see Evander Holyfield, a JCC, a Pacman.

Floyd will never be that kind of fighter. He is much more talented and will always be perceived as someone taking on opponents he can beat, much like RJJ.

 

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its just the rantings of a little boy who doesnt want to take responsibility for his actions and would rather blame everyone else for the consequences he is not man enough to face.
bunch of people trying to find some complex formula for why things are the way they are. floyds an ******* and only other assholes are going to like him and defend how he is. luckily the assholes are greatly outnumbered. foreman didnt become white, he stopped being an *******. mel gibson didnt become black, he started being an *******.
you have the same type of assholes trying to find bull**** reasons why being an ******* should not be a reason enough to hate me.
sure there are other less meaningful reasons for why he isnt liked but those only matter to other assholes on either side of the debate.
sorry im not in the mood to be more diplomatic.

 

I think it's because of the persona he projects + the way he fights that turn off a lot of fans.

They respect his skills, but not very fan friendly style.

If you're gonna decide to project a bad boy, villain persona, at least have some great mic skills and troll the **** out of people, but still having that sense of humour, quick wit and charm that makes it funny and OK.

Or if not, just have a fighting style that is equal in excitement and entertainment quality to all the things you're saying you're gonna do to your opponent.

 

Not everybody loves Pacquiao, BTW.

Almost everybody wants him to win everytime he fights, but outside the ring, he's not beyond criticism and ridicule at all.


It's like rooting for your home team in the world cup. You like some players and you also hate some players and you can't stand them, but once the game starts, you want your team, the one that represents your country to do well.

 

When Floyd talk so much it is because he is broke and needs to fight. He could care less about boxing and it's fans. You can never listen to a word he says but look at only what he does. Doing what he usually doing promoting himself to sell tickets. he will find a fighter who needs a payday who will come join the pussyboypromotion team and play his games.
he will pick there testing, gloves, weight, training, ring. location and everything because he really does need that extra edge before he steps into the ring. He is much more fragile of a fighter than most believe. Voidest of all time.

 

Tiger's sexual fetish and circle of friends (or lack thereof) showed where his head was at and his connections to "Blackness". The guy was "sterilized". The dude didn't even consider himself Black, but you are using him as a valid example? :roll:

WTF is "his success and mass appeal"? Every solid player in golf is successful as far as secondary endorsements go. He didn't transcend crap. Capitalists saw the opportunity to sell a ton of expensive golf clubs and golf shirts to the high end market. Give me a Tiger quote? :yep

Who said there was a "what" about it? I am not knocking it. I am saying that being dominant in the sport equals a windfall and receptive press. Period. His entire success was based on the sport and its financials not who he was.

What the hell are you even talking about? Whites don't even fit into that. I am talking about the Black athlete not being "too Black", i.e., having "racial baggage".

Every single guy you listed there is/was at the top of his game and is/was HATED! All of them got rich in their sports not on the side like POPULAR personalities do.

What in the hell are you even talking about with the "second chances" BS? That isn't even a topic of discussion here. We all know that these men are talented so will play their sport. The point was public and media receptiveness and the role racism/prejudice plays in it.

Stop using Tiger and Montana isn't even relevant. How about you use some relevant guys like Joe Frazier. Greatest REAL champion out of Philly (with Bernard pulling up a close second). Damn FICTIONAL Rocky got a statue on the steps where Smokin' Joe REALLY trained! :huh

Your examples are invalid. I am not saying and have never said everything is related to race, but in this case it obviously is. I am saying that Mayweather wasn't always "Money May". When he wasn't? He was broke.

He offered 100 times the excitement as a Boxer he does today. A superb combination of offense and defense. He didn't hit the big time until he talked bad about Gatti and destroyed him. He had to become what what society was interested in from a Black man... A villain to be hated.

I never said it was only about "sinister racism". That is the "little angry Black man" in your head. I said EXACTLY what you are saying. America is majority WHITE. Whites don't automatically seeing an African American representing America as part of the same American tribe. It is easier to align Whites AGAINST him that WITH him. Due to the cycle of Boxing hate sells. Here you are layering all this BS onto it.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You have jumped into this and weighed in with so many crap examples and BS points I barely know where to start. Then you are attempting to "unracial" American society and act like race doesn't matter. Ignorant people like you denying everything are as detrimental to the progression of racial understanding as the morons who blame everything on it. :roll:

No it is not? Says who? You the non minority in your non minority neighborhood?