The Puerto Rico vs. Mexico Rivalry : More like David vs. Goliath

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  1. Finesse74

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    The Puerto Rico vs. Mexico Rivalry : More like David vs. Goliath.
    by M.A.O'Neill

    Puerto Rico is a island of 9,104 km2 ( 3,515 Sqr. mi ) the population of less than 4 million.
    Mexico is nation of the Area 1,972,550 km2 ( 761,606 sqr mi.) 15th in the World.
    The Mexican population is plus 100,000,000 . 11th in the world.

    The Puerto Rico vs. Mexico was really a non existent rivarly not until the 1970's . When Wilfredo Gomez defeated a total, of 17 Mexicans boxers, and suffered only one defeat to Mexican boxer Salvador Sanchez by Tko in 1981. Prior to Gomez, there were only major two Puerto Rican boxers vs. Mexican boxers bouts with importance. Until , 1926 when legislation was passed and signed into law in 1927 , by then the Governor of Puerto Rico , Horance Mann Tower. That made boxing a legal sport to be practiced in Puerto Rico . From then on boxing gyms were built throught the island, and seven years later Sixto Escobar, becomes the 1st Puerto Rican World champion by Knocking out Baby Cassanova in the 9th round in Montreal , Canada, on June 26, 1934. The second major bout between a Puerto Rican vs. Mexican was when Carlos Ortiz knock out Raymundo " Battling " Torres in Claifornia on the 10th round to win the World Lightweight title in 1960.

    At first I tried to see head to head just Mexican boxers and Mexican American boxers versus Puerto Rican boxers, and I found Wilfredo Gomez 17 - 1 , Juan LaPorte 9-7 , John John Molina 14 -5 , Hector "Macho" Camacho 8-3, Felix Trinidad 5 - 0, Carlos Ortiz 3-0 , Wilfred Benitez 3 - 0. The total was 59 - 16 , but it made no sence, since Mexico produces countless club fighters because of their population and countless gyms. Championship fights are ususally when the best face the best.

    So , I would hear any excuses I also added Antonio Margarito , who is still is favored by many Mexicans although they claim he did not use Plaster of Paris versus Cintron and Cotto. I found the total of 80 plus championship bouts from Minimunweight to Cruiserweight title fights from the 1930 's to the present day. I included the championship bouts of Puerto Rican boxers Wilfredo Gomez ,Juan LaPorte ,John John Molina ,Hector Luis " Macho " Camacho ,Felix "Tito" Trinidad ,Sixto " El Gallito " Escobar ,Wilfredo " El Radar" Benitez ,Wilfredo Vasquez ,Daniel Santos, Eric Morel ,Carlos Ortiz. And Mexican boxers Lupe Pintor, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., Oscar De La Hoya , Salvador Sanchez, Erik Morales, Marco A.Barrera, Jose Luis Ramirez, Tony "Tiger" Lopez, Carlos Palomino, Fernando Vargas, Antonio Margarito, and Pipino Cuevas.

    World Championships Fights.

    (WBC,WBA, IBF , WBO, NBA and World Titles circa 1930's )

    Puerto Rican Boxers vs. Mexican & Mexican American Boxers:

    • Wilfredo Gomez defeats Lupe Pintor by TKO 14: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    • Wilfredo Gomez defeats Roberto Rubaldino TKO 8: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    • Wilfredo Gomez defeats Juan Meza TKO 6 : WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    • Wilfredo Gomez defeats Carlos Mendoza TKO 10: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1979.
    • Wilfredo Gomez defeats Carlos Zarate TKO 5 : WBC Super Bantamweight title 1978.
    • Wilfredo Gomez defeats Juan Antonio Lopez TKO 10: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1978.
    • Wilfredo Gomez defeats Raul Tirado TKO 5: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1977.
    • Wilfredo Gomez defeats Nicky Perez TKO 5 : WBC Super Bantamweight title 1979.
    • Juan Laporte defeats Ruben Castillo : WBC Featherweight title 1983 .
    • John J. Molina defeats Gregorio Vargas by 12 UD : IBF Super Featherweight title 1994 .
    • John J.Molina defeats Fransico Segura by TKO 8th: IBF Super Featherweight title1993 .
    • John J.Molina defeats Lupe Suarez by TKO 6th: IBF Super Featherweight title1990 .
    • John J.Molina defeats Tony Lopez by TKO 10th : IBF Super Featherweight title 1989.
    • Hector L. "Macho " Camacho defeats Rafael " Bazooka " Limon by a TKO 5: WBC Super Featherweight title1983 .
    • Hector L. "Macho " Camacho defeats Jose Luis Ramirez by a 12 UD : WBC Lightweight title 1985 .
    • Felix "Tito" Trinidad defeats ** Fernando Vargas by TKO 12 : IBF / WBC Jr . Middleweight titles 2000.
    • Felix " Tito " Trinidad defeats Oscar De La Hoya by MD 12 : WBC / IBF Welterweight titles1999.
    • Sixto Escobar defeats Rodolfo " Baby " Casanovas by KO 9 : Montreal Athletic Commission World Bantamweight title 1930.
    • Wilfredo " El Radar" Benitez defeats Carlos Palomino by SD 15 : WBC Welterweight title 1979 .
    • Wilfredo Vasquez defeats Orlando Canizales by SD 15 : Super Bantamweight title 1995.
    • Wilfredo Vasquez defeats Raul Perez by TKO 3 : WBA Super Bantamweight title 1992.
    • Carlos Ortiz defeats Raymundo " Battling " Torres by KO 10 : World Lightweight title 1960.
    • Esteban De Jesus defeats Vincente Mijares Saldivar by TKO 11: WBC Lightweight title 1977.
    • Edwin "Chapo" Rosario defeats Jose Luis Ramirez by UD 12 : WBA Lightweight title 1983.
    • Ivan "Iron Boy " Calderon defeats Hugo Fidel Cazares by TD 7 : WBO Flyweight title 2008.
    • Ivan " Iron Boy" Calderon defeats Hugo Fidel Cazares by SD 12: WBO Flyweight title 2007.
    • Ivan " Iron Boy" Calderon defeats Juan Esguer by UD 12 : WBO Flyweight title 2007.
    • Ivan " Iron Boy" Calderon defeats Isaac Bustos by UD 12 : WBO Minimumweight title 2006.
    • Ivan " Iron Boy" Calderon defeats Lorenzo Trejo by UD 12 : WBO Minimunweight title 2003.
    • Juan Manuel Lopez defeats Rafael Marquez by RTD 8 : WBO Featherweight title 2010.
    • Juan Manuel Lopez defeats Steven Luevano by TKO 7: WBO Featherweight title 2010.
    • Juan Manuel Lopez defeats Daniel Ponce De Leon by TKO 1: WBO Super Bantamweight title 2008.
    • Juan Manuel Lopez defeats Cesar Figueroa by KO 1 : WBO Super Bantamweight title 2008.
    • Wilfredo Vasquez jr. defeats Ivan Hernandez by TKO 11 : WBO Super Bantamweight title 2010.
    • Daniel Santos defeats Michael Lerma by UD 12 : WBO Light Middleweight title 2004.
    • Daniel Santos defeats Luis Ramos Campas by TKO 11: WBO Light Middleweight title 2002.
    • Eric Morel defeats Isidro Garcia by UD 12: WBA World Flyweight title 2003.
    • Eric Morel defeats Gilberto Keb Bass by UD 12 : WBA World Flyweight title 2000.
    • Eric Morel defeats Alberto Ontiveros by UD 12: WBA World Flyweight title 2000.
    • Josue Camacho defeats Eddie Vallejo by KO 6 : WBO Light Flyweight title 1992.
    • Daniel Santos defeats *** Antonio Margarito by TD 10: WBO Light Middleweight title 2004.
    • Miguel Angel Cotto defeats Alfonso Gomez by RTD 5: WBA World Welterweight title 2008.
    • Nelson Dieppa defeats Ulises Solis by MD 12: WBO Light Flyweight title 2004.
    • Carlos De Leon defeats Yaqui Lopez by TKO 4 : WBC Cruiserweight title 1983.
    • Jose Ruiz defeats Armando Velasco UD 12 : WBO Super Flyweight title 1990.

    Mexican & Mexican American Boxers vs. Puerto Rican Boxers:

    • Salvador Sanchez defeats Wilfredo Gomez TKO 8 : WBC Featherweight title 1981.
    • Salvador Sanchez defeats Juan LaPorte : WBC Feartherweight title 1980
    • Julio Cesar Chavez defeats Juan LaPorte: WBC Super Featherweight title 1986
    • Julio Cesar Chavez defeats Edwin "Chapo" Rosario by TKO 11: WBA Lightweight title 1987.
    • Jose Luis Ramirez defeats Edwin " Chapo " Rosario by TKO 4 : WBA Lightweight title 1984.
    • Zack Padilla defeats Juan LaPorte : WBO Light Welterweight title 1994
    • Robert Garcia defeats John John Molina by 12 UD: IBF Super Featherweight 1999
    • Oscar De La Hoya defeats John John Molina by 12 UD: WBO Lightweight 1995
    • Tony Lopez defeats John J. Molina by 12 UD : IBF Super Featherweight 1988
    • Tony Lopez defeats John J.Molina by 12 SD : IBF Super Featherweight 1990
    • Oscar De La Hoya defeats Hector L." Macho " Camacho by 12 UD : WBC Welterweight title 1997
    • Julio Cesar Chavez vs . Hector L. " Macho " Camacho by 12 UD: WBC Welterweight title 1992 .
    • Giovanni Segura defeats Ivan Calderon by KO 8 : WBO Flyweight title / WBA Super World Flyweight title 2010.
    • Giovanni Segura defeats Ivan Calderon by KO 3 : WBO Flyweight title 2011.
    • **Orlando Salido defeats Juan Manuel Lopez by TKO 8 : WBO Featherweight title 2012.
    • Jorge Arce defeats Wilfredo Vasquez jr by TKO 12: WBO Super Bantamweight title 2012.
    • Oscar De La Hoya defeats Wilfredo Rivera by TKO 8 : WBC Welterweight title 1997.
    • Pipino Cuevas defeats Angel Espada by TKO 10 : WBA World Welterweight title 1979.
    • Pipino Cuevas defeats Angel Espada by TKO 12 : WBA World Welterweight title 1977.
    • Pipino Cuevas defeats Angel Espada by TKO 2 : WBA World Welterweight title 1976.
    • Martin Castillo defeats Eric Morel by UD 12 : WBA World Super Flyweight title 2005.
    • Michael Carbajal defeats Josue Camacho by UD 12 : WBO Flyweight title 1994.
    • *** Antonio Margarito defeats Miguel Angel Cotto by TKO 11: WBA Welterweight tiltle 2008.
    • *** Antonio Margarito defeats Kermit Cintron by KO 6 : IBF Welterweight title 2008.
    • *** Antonio Margarito defeats Kermit Cintron by TKO 5: WBO Welterweight 2005.
    • Juan Diaz defeats Jose Miguel Cotto by UD 12 : WBA World Lightweight title 2006.
    • Ricardo Lopez defeats Alex Sanchez by TKO 5: WBC/WBO Miniumweight title 1997.
    • Hugo Fidel Cazares defeats Nelson Dieppa by TKO 10 : WBO Light Flyweight title 2006.
    • Hugo Fidel Cazares defeats Nelson Dieppa by TD 10 : WBO Light Flyweight title 2005.
    • Erik Morales defeats Angel Chacon by KO 2 : WBC Super Bantamweight title 1999.
    • Marco Antonio Barrera defeats Orlando Fernandez by TKO 7: WBO Super Bantamweight title 1996 .
    • Marco Antonio Barrera defeats Daniel Jimenez by UD 12 : WBO Super Bantamweight title1995.
    • Enrique Sanchez defeats Rafael Del Valle by UD 12: WBA Super Bantamweight title 1998.
    • Robert Qiroga defeats Jose Ruiz by MD 12: IBF Super Flyweight title 1992.
    • Jose Quirino defeats Jose Ruiz by UD 12 : WBO Flyweight title 1992.
    • Giberto Roman defeats Juan Carazo UD 12 : WBC Super Flyweight title 1989.

    *** Caught in 2009 with the illegal substance in gloves named Plaster of Paris suspended for a year.

    ** Tested positive for illegal PED's in career.
     
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  2. PH|LLA

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    Salido's test was a false-positve. He was re-tested the next day and came clean.
     
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  3. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    45-36...?
     
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  4. pound

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    :happy:happy:happy
     
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  5. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More like father and son

    This content is protected
     
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  6. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dont forget Cheato Trinidad got caught with loaded gloves
     
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  7. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Didn't Tito beat Yori Boy Campas? Didn't see that on the list.
     
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  8. Kush

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    JML also got caught trying to load his gloves
     
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  9. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The rivalry produces great interest and great fights, honestly that's all that matters. Mexico's on a roll now, but I'm enjoying every minute of the fights anyways!
     
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  10. papolamuerte

    papolamuerte Yo soy La Muerte! Full Member

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    He didnt just beat Yori Boy, he gave him an ass kicking for the ages, its rumored that till this day they never found Yori Boy's fron teeth, I am serious about this too. Most Mexicans here on ESB dont like the fact that many Mexican experts saw Yori Boy (56-0 at the time) as the next JCC until that Sept 1994 night when he jumped in the ring with the one from Cupey Alto :D.

    So it's actually 46-35, the Boricuas way ahead!
    :happy
     
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  11. Gamboa Express

    Gamboa Express Jeremiah 33:3 Full Member

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  12. Atritionist

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    Yes he did, Trinidad was a monster! He nearly decapitated Yuri Boy in that fight. After pulling himself off the canvas and Papa Trinidad " dandole su galleta", Tito came back and took it.

    Many experts did see Yuri Boy as the next Chavez, but in reality he wasn't on that level, a good fighter just not on that Chavez level.

    Hey I don't see Jose Luis Ramirez TKO Edwin "Chapo" Rosario 4RD

    This was a great fight where "El Chapo" dropped Ramirez like three times in the 1st two rounds. Then immediatly Ramirez came back and landed some serious body shots that caused Rosario to give his back quiting in Puerto Rico!!!

    I love this rivalry and I don't really care who up as long as they keep fighting. When it's Mex vs PR (championship fight ) you're gettinig a great scrap!!!
     
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  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I can't lie but it does make for interesting fights/build ups every now and then. My fav fight of the rivalry so far that I've seen of all time is Sanchez/Gomez with both fighters showing lots of will but also plenty of skill. I'm not Mexican or Puerto Rican both I'm a big fan of Sanchez & Gomez, great fighters and hard not to be a fan of both.
     
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  14. the_truth

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    Yes he did he got suspended also:patsch
     
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  15. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure most people know the whole handwrap incident with Tito is bull, they just throw it out there to hate.
     
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