Who do you rate higher p4p? Duran or Griffith?

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  1. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Emile Griffith or Roberto Duran? Are they close for you? Why/why not?
     
  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Despite the fact that in my P4P lists so far Duran was inside top 10 most of the times it can change if I learn more about Griffith .
    Seems like had it wasn't for the Paret tragedy his record would have looked even better , who knows how much better .
    So he probably was a better fighter than is given credit for , and it can not be seen in videos post the Paret #3 fight .. just prior to it.
    The only significance of the videos post Paret #3 is to judge if it really changed his style , but this can be asked here :
    Have Griffith' style changed significantly post Paret #3 ?
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think they are not too far in terms of overall quality as I read that Duran was a very dirty fighter as a LW , not to mention he had a habbit of getting decked as early as then.
     
  4. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Griffith would make my top 30. As such, they're not really close.
     
  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Getting decked? Lol, two knockdowns to DeJesus is a habit? Are Griffiths knockdowns to Paret and Carter also a habit?
     
  6. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sure only 2 ? yet even if i was a little wrong about this one , still just an if and just a little , the rest of my argument still stands solid.
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll agree with the "over all quality" of each fighter, but the dirty fighter part means nothing unless he was actually DQ'd. And Duran was certainly more dominant in his prime. Thats no knock on Griffith, but a fact!
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Good post.
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    for the likes of you : it's ain't a crime , unless you got caught.


    and in addition he was caught : by those who recorded these facts and typed it in boxrec , maybe on video too , at least in some of his fights @ 135
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Duran is just better
     
  11. abraq

    abraq Active Member Full Member

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    Emile Griffith was a class act and it would not be out of place to compare him with anyone. Having said that, I would like to state that Roberto Duran definitely ranks higher than him on the p4p list.
     
  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well since you've only "read" he was a dirty fighter, can you name me a fighter in history who wasn't dirty at one time or another? Boxing ain't a game of marbles.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran was x ceptional
     
  14. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    duran. not close
     
  15. TartanSoldier

    TartanSoldier Barnburner. Full Member

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    Duran by quite a bit. Domination at Lightweight, never losing. Moved up to WW defeating Top 25 P4P Sugar Ray Leonard and then in addition winning titles at 154 and 160.

    Emille Griffith is a good fighter and a Top 40 one but, I think Duran is on a different level on both H2H and P4P at their respective weights.