Prime Mike Tyson vs. Prime Vitali Klitschko

I don't think Klitschko is fast enough to keep Tyson off, so Tyson TKO rd 9 for me

 

*Vitali wins by murder...

 

Vitali is the master of handling aggression. He would handle Tyson and stop him late.

 

Vitali is the master of being a stiff statue. Tyson is too skilled, too fast and too much for either Klitschko.

 

Tyson, via stoppage.

 

Tyson tears him to pieces and wins a lopsided decision ..

 

Man, talk about overrated.

If a prime version of Vitali couldn't avoid getting sledgehammered by an UNDENIABLY past peak and OLD Lewis and got dropped as the first round closes while running, backpedaling and flailing in panic against the pedestrian and OLD Corrie Sanders then the best version of Tyson or Tyson in his best form is simply a higher end fighter who successfully lands what needs to be landed and HURTS Vitali and undoubtedly beats him with no equivocation.

In a series of fights I'd absolutely take both lower end guys like Ross Purrity and Corrie Sanders in their best form as athletes (as only a couple examples as they actually fought him) to KO Vitali (stop him in a crumpled heap lying prone just under the ropes) a FEW times AT LEAST.

Vitali's great size allows him to pose certain challenges in theory to anyone. But this is really no different than those who contend he'd beat Ali. One is a comparatively superior athlete with FAR better foot and hand speed, reflexes, and coordination. The other is Vitali Klitschko who is beating guys like Sam Peter and a myriad of other athletic jokes in this current era and none of these current era participants would last ten minutes this evening if they opened their traps in any night spot around the US in which top level athletes are out and everyone here KNOWS these "C" level bums merely have careers due to the lack of participation of the country's best athletes. This is a one off period in which only the worst athletes are participating and the guys at the top look good only by comparison - not by being AT ALL special or extraordinary. Whoever doesn't know that is an incredibly poor judge of talent and must not have any familiarity with what actually exists on the globe (in the US specifically).

One merely has to address why the Klits have been so statistically dominant and yet do not have a material following over here. The US lauds and admires incredible talent and entertainment regardless of the individual's place of origin. Few over here has ever believed in their talent as being SPECIAL. Maybe some denizen from the the same or a similar homogenous population or pool sees high end coordination, impressive movement, athletic grace or speed, eye catching reflexes, or breath taking athleticism in the Klitschkos but no one else does - and never has. In an age when entertainment is so highly valued and the communication mediums are so varied, ubiquitous, and immediate their prowess has been widely viewed and repeatedly deemed as inconsequential and unexceptional. That is a fact. Not much else can be said about it or to deny it. Far TOO MANY athletes recognize the Klits have decent size (the best in the heavyweight boxing) but believe they are a large step below the best in athletic development for athletes WITH that kind of size (and do not for a second see them as a step forward). I can't imagine how anyone could think differently.


The lack of athletic subsidy, support, and ability to make a living as a participant in a decaying sport overall has presented a situation no different than a sport impacted by a country or countries fighting in a war in which only the dregs with a health exemption are left to participate. The larger two legged 4-F man is beating the goggle wearing one legged asthma ridden contender. It doesn't impress anyone who has seen better athletes and knows the top level talent is currently indisposed.

If you think the Klits are tremendously impressive athletically then you must have Corrie Sanders as one of the greatest who ever entered the ring. No one watched him at 37 and 38 years of age fight the brothers and thought .. "damn, that old pillsbury dough boy with the gut is surely out of his element against these amazing athletic gods." Quite the opposite. One couldn't help but wonder if Corrie had eaten a few less boxes of donuts and drank a couple fewer cases what might have been.

 

Whatever HE said :good

 

Interesting points.

But Tyson himself only dominated in an era where the American heavyweights had reached rock bottom, and before the professional boxing was allowed in Soviet Union and East Europe region.

 

His era was no different to some of the previous eras and this current era is by far the worst.

Yes Tyson fought in a bad era, but considering his size (or lack of) he did pretty well for himself.

 

If there had been a subsidy, an educational opportunity, and a better career environment in the past couple decades over here there would be ten Mike Tyson's from the US participating in professional boxing possessing at least the same aggregate level of threat but dispersed over larger athletes that would make Lennox look smallish, slowish, and merely a first generation obsolete prototype at best.

 

Tyson's era was not a bad one. It was chock full of solid skilled fighters. There might have been a bunch of underachievers, but I dont remember too many who werent up to challenge Tyson for the titles.
Vitali is being overated here. Hes not shown the ability to beat a fighter on Tysons level ever!

 

I just think maybe, just maybe, Vitali Klitschko was a bit better than a fading Pinklon Thomas, a Tony Tucker or a Frank Bruno ....

... and I know he was a good bit bigger than all of them, and stronger than at least two of the above, and more aggressive.

Anyone who thinks that cannot be the case is being a bit closed-minded in regards to recent or current fighters , IMO.

 

I think he falls in nicely with that group. I think hes definitely a cleaner living more consistent champ, but on their respective best nights, I dont think there is a big difference. Some of those fighters were better than Vitali at certain aspects of boxing. We've not seen Vitali really handle himself well against a solid pressure fighter. Sanders and Peter just dont do it for me. Tucker and Bruno have pretty comparable records to Vitali too. They both lost to their biggest challenges but did pretty well against comparable ones.

 

Stopped reading right there. Vitali-Purity was one-sided brutal beating. Vitali-Sanders was one-sided brutal beating. Lewis escaped by lucky cut. That's besides the point since tyson, Lewis and Sanders are completely different fighters.

For every punch Tyson lands he would have to eat 10 Vitali's punches. Vitali-Tyson would be competitive for a few rounds and then become one-sided beating of tired staggering Tyson by Vitali.