How come Wards win over Kessler gets so much acclaim when....

So many people rate Wards win over Kessler as something special yet dont rate Calzaghes victory over Eubank. Why?

It was Wards 21st fight, Ward was 25
It was Calzaghes 23rd fight, Calzaghe was 25

Ward won at home
Calzaghe won away

When Ward beat Kessler, Kessler was 42-1-0
When Calzaghe beat Eubank, Eubank was 45-2-2

Kessler was 31
Eubank was 31

Kessler was 8-1 in world title fights
Eubank was 17-2-2 in world title fights

It was just under 3 years since Kessler beat a world rated opponent
It was just under 3 years since Eubank beat a world rated opponent

Kessler had only fought 3 completed rounds in 1 fight in a year before fighting Ward
Eubank had only fought 7 completed rounds in 2 fights in a year before fighting Calzaghe

Kesslers only loss was clear
Eubanks 2 losses - first was very close (debateable) the second was a SD, to the same fighter.

Kessler was favourite to win.
100 years of Boxing News claims Calzaghe was underdog, I have read Calzaghe was underdog but some posters claim he was betting favourite, though.
http://www.talkboxing.co.uk/guides/boxing_legends_joe_calzaghe.html
Notes Eubank was a strong favourite, but dont know where the site got its info.

Both Ward and Calzaghe had dominant performances with Calzaghe scoring 2 KDs.

After the loss Kessler beat undefeated WBC champ Froch
After the loss Eubank fought WBO CW champ Thompson and lost a close decision scoring a KD. Eubank fought a return with the bigger Thompson and lost on injury when ahead. Thompson was a CW and the only fighter to have beaten D Haye.

I have read how people on ESB say Eubank was shot so -
How far past prime was Eubank to you then?
Eubank had lost a close decision to Collins, that many thought he won, had a couple of tune ups and rematched Collins to a SD, had a couple of tune ups and lost clearly to underdog Calzaghe. After that loss Eubank went up to CW and challenged world champ Thompson losing a very close decision and then rematched Thompson losing on injury when ahead. Thats Thompson who years later past his best KOd D Haye.
Consider Eubank only had 2 losses to one fighter when he fought Calzaghe, the second by SD to a world champ and was 31 then went on to challenge a big CW flooring him etc, how past his prime do YOU think he was?
Remember Kessler is Wards big win and was the same age as Eubank here and had around the same amount of fights, so is Kessler shot as well, because Kessler has a serious eye problems and was an unwell double vision suffering fighter who has been inactive for a while now due to his injury


Remember when you make silly comments about losses was G Johnson considered past his prime when years ago after losing to Hopkins he went 7-9-2 including the Hopkins loss



So why is one victory so highly rated and not the other??

 

Very, very interesting

 

Calzaghe fought only bums and old men.

 

In 17000 posts, I reckon you might have posted this same post 16500 times atsch

 

It does tell a bit of a story, though I doubt anyone who praises Ward and loves Calzaghe will want to answer

 

Very interesting facts there. There's so much double standards in this game it's unreal. Food for thought.

 

Does look that way.
I was hoping someone non bias could shed some light

 

For the first time ever Bailey I think I agree with you.

While Eubank had started to decline he was far from shot. The fact he fought a hard hitting cruiser like Thompson to a stand still while past his best puts into context what a great performance Calzaghe put on to beat Eubank.

Sure Eubank was no longer fighting at his optimum weight which clearly effected him but being a huge Eubank fan I don't think it would have really mattered what version of Eubank fought Calzaghe. Calzaghe would always beat Eubank, he had all the tools to give Chris hell.

 

I think maybe because Kessler was considered the best SMW in the world and Eubank wasn't.

 

because Wards victory was in the past two or so years. Calzaghe's win was in 1997. Ten years from now ask this question again.

 

Shows double standards doesnt it! Especially when Kessler isnt as accomplished as Eubank, and was an unwell fighter who was treated badly and illegally headbutted

 

Somebody has to spread the truth. :deal

 

I guess its because even though you could argue both Kessler and Eubank had lost a step, that Kessler (prime)never had as big on an upside as what Eubank did in his prime, now that might suggest, well Joe should get MORE credit, but I think people base it on how good Eubank was, to how good he was when Joe beat him.

If that make sense?

 

Who denies that Eubank was a good win? :huh

Not a great win, but nobody calls Ward over Kessler a great win either.

Both good.

 

1st of all Ward wasn't a home. Carson Ca. is not home for Andre! Oakland is. And, the entire Armenian community from the Valley ( San Fernando) was there to give Arthur more than enough support. When they introduced the fighters AA got the bigger applause.