Pick a quality you think is underrated or overlooked in an ATG or personal favorite.

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chicken.

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  2. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    :hi:
     
  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    ...Who?
     
  4. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Besides myself,I don't see many people discrediting Frazier's chin.I mean,other fighters get knocked down or out by big punchers,and that doesn't save them face - yet with Frazier,he's managed to get away with it.And this is despite the fact that George Foreman was the only puncher he ever fought in his life.



    Getting knocked down that many times in such a short time of space is not just a matter of one style being too difficult to overcome.
     
  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Has anyone ever taken that many consecutive punches from a post-prison Ali and stood on their feet? Ali's not-often-praised punching power, while not ATG power, is enough to lend itself as credit to Frazier's chin.
     
  6. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Possibly Joe Bugner - Besides a decent jab in their first fight,he largely served as Ali's own personal heavy bag in twenty seven rounds between the two.



    Being as limited and one-dimensional as he was,Frazier wasn't difficult to hit - but he was pretty decent at taking away the full impact of a blow.Caught clean enough to make a mark,but,usually,not consistently clean enough to the point where he was in danger of a knockout.And as innacurate as Foreman could appear,he had just enough power to make whatever contact his fist made with Frazier's noggin count.




    In making a case for him having a good chin,I can point to Wladimir's last fight against the heavy handed Samuel Peter and bring up the fact that he was caught quite a few times on the chin and took the shots well.But,in truth,the only consistent theme regarding Wladimir's chin,is that it's not a particularly strong one.Same thing with Frazier.I simply cannot ignore the fact that,against the one and only puncher he didn't manage to avoid,he was embarrassingly dropped half a dozen times in two rounds.
     
  7. janitor

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    John L Sullivan-Ring IQ

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    Gene Tunney-offense

    Max Schmeling-left side of the body

    Jack Sharkey-everything

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    Max Baer-counterpunching

    Joe Louis-durability

    Joe Walcott-durability

    Rocky Marciano-feinting

    Muhamad Ali-finishing ability

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    Lennox Lewis-offense and durability
     
  8. Seamus

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  9. MarxP

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    Joe Frazier's right hand, he used it to dig to the body and set up his left hook very well.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Somtimes the biggest con a fighter ever achieves, is convincing the world that they are a one armed fighter.
     
  11. Seamus

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    Does this include consistency and mental fortitude? Though, I am a fan of Sharkey. He was big, strong (tho maybe not overly powerful puncher) and crafty... when he was on.
     
  12. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Monzon and what Frazier Scott said about him. How he was a guy that forced you to throw punches against him you knew you should not be throwing. Another guy i thought that always did that to opponents was Ricardo Lopez. A rare skill to have and tough to have the tools to pull off.
     
  13. Bogotazo

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    DLH had an underrated right hand also. His right hand leads broke down Campas real good, and it landed with a thud in combination. This was Mayweather Sr.'s doing.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    Hmm Tupac did compare Biggie to Tupac, now I see why, Biggie completely bit his style
     
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