1.Pacquiao 2. Martinez 3.Donaire 4.Marquez 5 Wladimir Klitschko 6. Tim bradley 7. Vitali klitschko 8. Gamboa 9. Hopkins 10 Cotto 11 Segura 12 Froch 13 Ward 14 Bute 15 Khan
1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Sergio Martinez 3. Nonito Donaire 4. Andre Ward 5. Wladimir Klitschko 6. Juan Manuel Marquez 7. Carl Froch 8. Timothy Bradley 9. Bernard Hopkins 10. Vitali Klitschko 11. Jean Pascal 12. Lucian Bute 13. Miguel Cotto 14. Giovanni Segura 15. Yuriorkis Gamboa On the outside looking in: Roman Gonzalez, Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, Chad Dawson, Tomasz Adamek, Chris John, David Haye, Victor Ortiz, Joseph Agbeko, Amir Khan, Vic Darchinyan, Anselmo Moreno, Fernando Montiel, etc.
1- Pacquiao 2- Donaire 3- Martinez 4- Ward 5- Froch 6- Bradley 7- Hopkins 8- Gamboa 9- Wonjongkam 10- Segura 11- Khan 12- Cotto 13- Marquez 14- A. Moreno 15- A. Mares
Ok, so you look at who they have fought. Froch: AA, Kessler (loss), Dirrell, Taylor, Pascal, Reid Bute: Miranda, Andrade x2, Bika, Joppy And people still rate Bute ahead of him :huh
When predicting the outcome of a fight you don't base the winner solely on who's fought the better fighters. Pacquiao's arguably fought better comp than Mayweather yet people still think Mayweather would beat him. Froch has fought better comp than Ward etc. I'm not basing my list off resume but who I think is actually better. Who would win if they fought 2morro
And even tho they're good names Froch lost to Kessler & looked poor against Dirrell & Taylor. I concede if you go off resume Bute is nowhere
Well we can't thats why you can never really gauge p4p rankings. But basically it's the same as predicting a bout. you just go off what you've seen in the past. You can't really compare Bute looking great against bums to Froch looking **** but still winning against Taylor. I personally think Bute has the tools to beat Froch or Ward but they also have the tools to beat Bute. To me Froch, Ward & Bute are all pretty even. If they all fought each other I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out like Cotto/Mosely/Margarito.
I hate *******s dude.. but even I know JMM ain't p4p over Pacman... no matter who Pac's been facing lately I have no idea.. I have Bute behind Froch and Ward
1. Mayweather 2.Martinez 3.Pacquiao 4.Wlad 5.Marquez 6.Gamboa 7.Donaire 8.Wonjongkam 9.Ward 10.Segura 11.Froch 12.john 13.pascal 14.Guerrero 15.Hopkins
1.Pacquiao 2.Nonito - Martinez not much sepearating tuff one? 4.Marquez 5.Gamboa I know but hes just stands out in hth pfp matchups over others 6.Bradley These next 3 you can swithch up anyway,but like bradleys consistency 7.Ward 8.Hopkins 9.Wlad 10.Segura 11.Vitali 12.Pascal 13.Williams 14.John 15.Mares 16.Agbeko 17.Darchinyan 18.Kahn 19.Froch 20.Bute Others Salido,Guerrero,Cotto,Nishioka,Pong,Rios,Haye,Dawson,Cunningham,Ortiz,Huck,Kessler,Adamek,Rigondeaux,Lopez Would have put Cotto but i just dont think hes top 15 material at JM if he was still at Welter he might crack the top 10... Froch is a little overrated, and im only squezzing him in at 20 cuz of his good "official" wins , lost to Kessler should have lost to Dirrell.. Pascal has also improved alot since moving up and his win over Dawson and close fight with B-Hop counts more than Frochs win. If Froch can beat Ward ore even give a close fight ill give him his props, but lets see him get past Johnson first.. And Pong just has to fight better opposition, to be ranked above those quality guys. I would have put DIrrell 12 but dont know what the hell he wants to do hes been to quite and inactive.
why are people placing hopkins between 5-10 on their p4p lists. his last 2 years of work = beating 29-6 ornelas by ud beating a roy jones who had lost his previous fight to danny green in 1 round by ud drawing with pascal who none of you have on your lists how does this qualify hopkins for being 5-10 p4p?