Harry Greb vs. Muhammad Ali's 60's Opposition

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Harry Greb at his supermiddleweight/lightheavyweightish best versus...

    Doug Jones
    Henry Cooper (twice)
    Old Sonny Liston (twice)
    Floyd Patterson (with bad back)
    George Chuvalo
    Henry Cooper
    Brian London
    Karl Mildenberger
    Cleveland Williams (with bullet hole)
    Ernie Terrell



    Well, have at it.
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    REALLY tough to say with so little first hand knowledge of what greb's style was. newspaper reports can give us a sample of his greatness and ability with other fighters but when looking at so many diverse styles, i think we need a little more on HOW greb fought to say who he may or may not struggle with. that's just me though
     
  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Greb beats them all, apart from perhaps Terrell.
     
  4. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    No
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can't see Greb beating Liston. Sonny may have been past his VERY best,but hardly shot. Terrel would have beaten Harry.
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    If we're getting literal about the exact same circumstances, I don't see why Harry wouldn't have at least split the series against Sonny.
     
  7. quarry

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    most of these would murder Greb
     
  8. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Sonny Liston would Floyd Patterson Harry Greb most likely.
     
  9. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Also, Roberto Duran.
     
  10. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    How would greb do with a 45 year old Archie Moore?
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good God, just think how badly they'd destroy Dempsey than! :rofl
     
  12. quarry

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    Dempsey would also murder Greb.. don't tell me your know going to tell us that 5`6in Greb the powder-puff puncher is going to beat 6`7ins Terrell & 6`4ins Cleveland Williams or Floyd Patterson & Sonny Liston ffs your deluded mate.. if Greb was all you try to make him out to be then every boxing historian & boxing fan worldwide would be singing his praises in similar fashion to you and McGrain. but the reality is that Greb was not "Superman" and was licked thrice by Gene Tunney before Tunney even reached his prime as a fighter.
     
  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey wouldn't even fight Greb. And Tunney was smack dab in his prime while fighting Greb in fights that were much close than his fights with your fallen hero. You can't argue with facts which is why you tucked tail a ran from the Dempsey thread. :yep
     
  14. quarry

    quarry Guest

    Truth is i never ran from the Dempsey thread.. you and McGrain was spewing out assumptions that no one else accepted as facts. i asked you both repeatedly to provide links yet never was any produced so i moved-on from reading your bull.... Ray Arcel the greatest trainer in the sports history claimed" Gene Tunney retired before he ever reached his peak so we will never know just how great he really was"... yet here we have JAB the known troll and known liar telling us Gene Tunney was in his prime when fighting Harry Greb :lol: .. away with you
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    You're right, quarry, Tunney's prime was when he became a fully-fledged heavyweight the last two or three years of his career.

    Greb was an incredibly tricky fighter though.