Why is everyone saying Pac is now to big for JMM?

Fight night weight is what matters...Fight night weights are countered by the fact that the heavier guy have to drain themselves more. If both fighters weigh in the same at fight night though, then whatever holds true for 1, holds true for another. IE If I have to drain myself 10lbs, then you too would have to drain 10lbs, we would both be weakened. If I dont have to drain, you dont have to drain, neither of us will be weakened.

This changes when the fight night weight gap is big, ie:
I weigh 170lbs, if I drain to 150lbs, Im a zombie. You weigh 160lbs, if you drain to 150lbs, you be drained but not as much, advantage in your favour despite me outweighing you by 10lbs. Now if we weigh in at 160lbs. I weigh 170, I drain to 160...im drained slightly. You weigh 160, you dont drain at all. You feel strong and not drained, I feel slightly drained but have 10lbs in my favour. My extra weight advantage outweighs me being slightly drained...thus advantage me.

This **** matters when theres a big weight gap. Not the case for Pac-JMM.

Now you didnt answer my question. If Pac is stronger and have more energy cos he dont have drain himself, why wont JMM be? Of course he will be stronger and have more energy. Its universally true that if you dont have to drain yourself, you are gonna have more energy. JMM drains himself 10lbs everytime he fights at LW.

Now why dont he fight at 140-147 if he has more energy and stronger at that weight since he dont have to drain? Because those guys are gonna fight at 154lbs+. Pac will fight at 148/149.

Is it so hard to grasp that what holds true for Pac, also holds true for JMM in that they will both be stronger and have more energy when they dont have to drain themselves?

 

Pac is a welterweight now in my eyes been there for over a year the weight gives him an advantage but i still expect a good fight doubt JMM gets blown out too much emphasis is put on weight i feel

 

Listen, there's a big difference between Marquez and Pacquiao. Marquez can make 135 pounds without a problem cause he has the energy and not much fatness with big muscles like Pacquiao. When Marquez put on the muscles vs Mayweather, Marquez look tired easily with far less power. Put it this way Marquez doesn't kill himself to make 135 pounds more then Pacquiao or the same as Pacquiao in which is clearly obvious. Hell Marquez weigh in i think at 142 pounds on the weigh in vs Mayweather but went back down 135 pounds in his next fight without a problem? That's 7 pounds apart. Marquez unlike Pacquiao doesn't rely on his muscles to have more energy with better power. Marquez is a pure counter puncher that relys more on his skills instead of relying on his power punches with big muscles. Again it's easily and simple Marquez is a light weight fighters while Pacquiao is clearly a ww fighter. This 3rd fight is clearly a mismatch in Pacquiao favor. Why can't you admit this 3rd fight is clearly a mismatch?

 

So what you trying to say if a fighter weighs in more then 10 pounds on fight night while he outweighs his opponent over 10 pounds is clearly his advantage to win? If you try to mean by that then you're dead wrong.

 

Pac has a lot of energy too at 140. He came in at 149 vs DLH, then following his next fight, dropped down to 138. He can make the weight, he just has to drain himself slightly...but he dont wanna.

The difference between the 2 is 3lbs. Fight night weight of JMM is 145lb, Pac is 148lb. Pac lowest weigh in weight in years is 138lb, JMM's is 135lb. Pac would have to kill himself to make 135lb...but you're asking 140, he wont have to kill himself to make that weight.

3rd fight is a mismatch because Pac is not drained and is more skilled now. But not because theres a big size difference.

JMM put muscles on for PBF to actually go up in weight...meaning fight night as thats when the weight comes into play. JMM wont need to put on muscle against Pac, he just wont have to drain himself. DONT drain himself. No bulking up, no added fat, no added muscle...just dont drain yourself.

 

Don't you guys know anything! Pac is the same size as JMM, Floyd, AND Martinez.... atsch

 

You mean Pacquiao has far more power behind his punches and is a proven fighter at ww? <<<That's a big time mismatch in Pacquiao favor.

 

No, Im trying to say you have to find the balance. In the examples I gave:

A) You drain 20lbs, opponent drain 10lbs, you outweigh him by 10lbs on fight night. YOU are at a disadvantage, because the disadvantage of having to drain 20lbs far outweighs having a 10lbs fight night weight advantage.

B) You drain 10lbs, you opponent dont drain at all. You outweigh him by 10lbs on fight night. You only slightly drained, as is the case for JMM now with all his fights at LW, hes slightly drained by draining 10lb of water but it dont affect him that much, thus the advantage of having 10lbs extra fight night weight advantage outweights being slightly drained. You have the advantage.

 

Lets be honest, you saw him weigh in at 138 against Hatton ...you really think he's gonna loose too much power if he weighs in at 140? Lets not be silly, Pac just has to take a dump and a long **** that day and all good.

The only way JMM can even this out is by REALLY DRAINING Pac, by getting him down to 135.

 

Yep a lot of the same people asking Pac to come down to 140lb for JMM are the same guys asking Pac to fight a guy who comes in a SMW fight night.

 

Super middleweight? Didn't Mosley weigh in at a supermiddleweight on fight night vs Pacquiao? Didn't Margarito weigh in on fight night 165 pounds? Isn't that a super middleweight?

 

people are calling it a mismatch purely based off of the performance of marquez at that weight vs mayweather. Marquez hasnt proved that he can handle that increase in weight whereas pac has proved he can and still maintain speed and power. Marquez looked bloated slow and cumbersome vs floyd. Its for those reasons this is another pointless fight for pac but one his idiot fans will try to sugarcoat regardless

 

Pac/JMM I & II was a mismatch. JMM was healthy and Pac wasn't.

Pac/JMM III is going to be another mismatch. Pac is going to be healthy and JMM won't? (unless JMM will come in whatever weight he's comfortable of)

 

Case in point, JMM wont need to increase his weight, he just need to maintain his current fight weight of 145 but he dont have to dehydrate himself to 135.

 

Mosley was around 158-160 fight night I think. i cant imagine he drained 23lbs to fight at 147.

Martinez at 170 was actually a LHW.

And what is your point, so what if those guys are that weight? You say Pac can make 140, he can...it just shows hes that good he can beat guys that outweight him by that much. Like everything though, there is a limit.