Ring website slams Pac/Marquez 3

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  1. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ WILL BE A DISASTER
    The third fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez on Nov. 12 will be a disaster.

    Pacquiao-Marquez could be a defendable matchup even today – at about 135 pounds, Marquez's natural weight. At 144, the catch weight to which the fighters’ agreed, this will be another in a depressing series of mismatches for Pacquiao.

    We got a good look at what Marquez looks like as a welterweight, when he fought Floyd Mayweather Jr. at 142 pounds in 2009. He couldn’t even begin to cope with Mayweather’s speed and ability.

    What will be different against Pacquiao? Nothing. The No. 1 fighter in the world has retained his quickness and power as he has moved up in weight; he clearly has outgrown a rival he fought at 126 and 130 pounds a number of years ago.

    The result will resemble Mayweather-Marquez – only worse. Mayweather isn’t offensive minded; Pacquiao is. Marquez is in for the worst beating of his career, perhaps a career-ending beating that will end with a ominous question: Why did we let that happen?

    Marquez's best chance to compete would be to disregard the catch weight and fight where he’s at his best, around 135 pounds. He’d probably be outweighed by seven or eight pounds but at least he’d be able to move.

    Still, the odds are against him. The future Hall of Famer will be 38 when the fight takes place; clearly, he’s not quite what he was. He struggled at times in his last fight against Michael Katsidis, who is light years behind Pacquiao in ability.

    And Pacquiao isn’t the same fighter who struggled with Marquez. The pound-for-pound king has become a much-more complete fighter under Freddie Roach, one who would be better than Marquez even on a level playing field.

    Thus, this is a recipe for a fourth consecutive ugly fight involving Pacquiao, whose victories over Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito and Shane Mosley were ridiculously one sided and minimally entertaining.

    Another such fight will further damage a sport that is still reeling from the colossal Pacquiao-Mosley disappointment on May 7, in which the 39-year-old Mosley more or less refused to fight for fear of getting knocked out.

    And while Pacquiao’s legacy is secure because of past triumphs, another dud will do some harm to his reputation. I think people are beginning to catch on to the fact that Team Pacquiao isn’t truly concerned about entertaining fans. It's all about money.

    Who else could Pacquiao have selected? Any of a number of fighters with the size and speed to at least provide some resistance. Welterweight titleholder Victor Ortiz. Timothy Bradley. Kermit Cintron. Even Zab Judah.

    Not Marquez. Not at 144 pounds. Not now.
    http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/167355-pacquiao-marquez-will-be-a-disaster

    there is no reason for this apart from negativity,bias and being butthurt
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    The Golden Ring
     
  3. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golden Boy owns the ring magazine right?
     
  4. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    honestly i don't think ortiz has the experience or ring smarts to make a fight with pac interesting
     
  5. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yep but the website is the only place they have editorial control so its much more pro gbp then the magazine
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    hahaha oscar trying to use the ring to get back because they could not counter TR's proposal to marquez? :lol:
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    jmm was 145 against katsidis while pac was 148 against margarito. pac would be outweighing jmm only by 3 or 4 pounds come fight night and jmm would not need to bulk-up like what he did against floyd.

    also lol at judah and cintron being the better replacement fight. :lol:
     
  8. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    my word...look at these guys...they have an excuse for everything

    now its all "golden boy owns ring right".....but they have no problem mentioning it when ring drops floyd from its p4p rankings or has manny as the number 1......face it folks.....this fight is pointless....you cried like little women when he came up to face floyd "ohhh jmm cant carry his effectiveness up that high in weight...blah blah".....but now its "its ok because we know he and pac will be close to the same weight come fight night"......a bunch of friggin babies you guys are....youll twist anything and even contradict yourselves in the process....but its no suprise....you guys act just like the pacquiao camp
     
  9. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This from the same writer that endorsed Hopkins vs Jones II. Very objective.....um no.
     
  10. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Straight out of the Ringpiece:deal
     
  11. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    look at you guys.....congrats...youve actually convinced yourselves this is a legit reason this fight makes sense!
     
  12. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LMAO, The Ring has no integrity anymore.

    Victor Ortiz? Golden Boy and Top rank ain't making fights together.

    Tim Bradley? Having issues with Shaw.

    Cintron? Are you ****ing kidding me?

    Judah? Could be a good fight, for about 5-6 rounds. Same as Marquez.
     
  13. motorcity

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    The difference is Pacquiao will actually make weight and not weigh more than 148 fight time. Floyd purposely weighed over and trapped Marquez into renegotiating so that he could weigh around 152+ fight time.
     
  14. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fact is, nobody is going to pay for Ortiz, Bradley or Judah.

    Marquez is the only marketable fight.

    Well that and...

    MAYWEATHER

    Also, this is a MUCH more competitive fight than Mayweather vs Marquez. The writer is obviously an idiot.

    Mayweather had EVERY single concievable advantage over Marquez, most importantly STYLE and SIZE.

    Marquez has the STYLISTIC advantage over Pac.
     
  15. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    never said that actually....soooooooo