You are trying to use semantics to sound intelligent but its very clear you are not. Let me throw out another definition for you: Hormone: a synthetic substance used in medicine to act like such a compound when introduced into the body. Natural EPO is a hormone. Sure, synthetic EPO is a drug inasmuch as it is an external substance that alters normal body function. Synthetic EPO however, is also a hormone inasmuch as it is used and created to ACT LIKE naturally occuring EPO in the body. It is all semantics. You were asking for a drug that 'stimulates EPO', that's not what synthetic EPO does. A clear indicator of your extensive knowledge on the subject. Hematide was mentioned by someone else earlier in this thread, how does you repeating that make you knowledgeable? Other names can be thrown out, such as DynEPO...but so what? I am not up to date with the testing methods on each so there's no point in acting like I am absolutely certain this specific drug is currently undetectable in urine testing. I am simply aware that synthetic EPO does exist that has been undetectable in urine testing. The testing procedures catch up eventually and new versions are made; that is the cycle. Again, I never claimed to be an expert on PED's and testing procedures. I simply know what I know, which is more than what some people around here know short of searching the internet for information. Your weapon is name calling, not actual knowledge. Like I said before, the attributes of a pre-pubescent adolescent. There's nothing to get caught in. There's no conspiracy here. I said earlier that blood doping required blood testing. You showed an example of a case in which urine testing was able to detect it. I am not an expert on blood doping, I accept that I can be incorrect or not up to date with certain information. I recall Victor Conte himself recently stating that blood doping was still undetectable except by blood testing.
There is NOW WAY you are a medical student. That definition is fundamentally wrong. You should have learned what hormone is at the junior high level. Are you serious? Did you just write that???? HORMONE synthetic??????? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111
So funny how in your eyes, your ignorance is my indictment. Look it up in a MEDICAL DICTIONARY. The term hormone has more than one definition. :-(
Now Hormones are synthetic and EPO is not a drug. :rofl:rofl This guy has the nerve to claim he's a medical student and the person with more knowledge about it because he is a medical student. What clown.
And if you are a medical student you would know that to make that distinction. And there are terms specifically used to make that distinction. And you are instructed to ALWAYS use that distinction. Back pedal more. Googling is not medical school.
Synthetic (Chemistry) (of a substance or material) made artificially by chemical reaction Hormone: A chemical substance produced in the body that controls and regulates the activity of certain cells or organs. And this clown claims to be a medical student!!!!!! Calling hormone synthetic and saying EPO is not a drug!
:rofl So this is MY claim huh? You don't even know what hormone means from its root, nor did you look up the definition evidently. Let me help you out, since you are apparently reluctant for me to be correct, in that it reveals your ignorance. Hormone <endocrinology> A naturally occuring substance secreted by specialised cells that affects the metabolism or behaviour of other cells possessing functional receptors for the hormone. Hormones may be hydrophilic, like insulin, in which case the receptors are on the cell surface or lipophilic, like the steroids, where the receptor can be intracellular. Some cancers may be stimulated and others inhibited by hormones (for example breast and prostate cancer). Some hormones can be synthesised and used as replacement in glandular deficiencies or as treatment for some cancers. Hormones may be injected, others taken by mouth. (29 Sep 1997) SOURCE: http://medical-dictionary.com/ hor·mone  -noun 1. Biochemistry . any of various internally secreted compounds, as insulin or thyroxine, formed in endocrine glands, that affect the functions of specifically receptive organs or tissues when transported to them by the body fluids. 2. Pharmacology .a synthetic substance used in medicine to act like such a compound when introduced into the body. 3. Botany . Also called phytohormone. any of various plant compounds, as auxin or gibberellin, that control growth and differentiation of plant tissue. SOURCE: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hormone So, simple question. Is synthetic Human Growth Hormone a drug or a hormone???? atsch
EDIT: You are correct. The definition, "A naturally occurring substance secreted by specialized cells that affects the metabolism or behavior of other cells possessing functional receptors for the hormone", applies any naturally occurring hormone in the body. The definition, "A synthetic substance used in medicine to act like such a compound when introduced into the body", applies to synthetic hormones. I pose to you the same question. Is synthetic Human Growth Hormone a drug or a hormone?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...rs/david_epstein/02/23/hgh.testing/index.html http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/04/news/sinkewitz-b-sample-tests-positive-for-hgh-too_168031
for people saying that no one has ever been caught for HGH, just scroll through the search results, all the people caught have been caught from blood testing http://www.bing.com/search?q=TESTS+POSITIVE+HGH&src=IE-SearchBox
Anything created syntheticly and then injected into the body is called a drug. You should know that Mr self proclaim medical student.
Again, hor·mone  -noun 1. Biochemistry . any of various internally secreted compounds, as insulin or thyroxine, formed in endocrine glands, that affect the functions of specifically receptive organs or tissues when transported to them by the body fluids. 2. Pharmacology .a synthetic substance used in medicine to act like such a compound when introduced into the body. 3. Botany . Also called phytohormone. any of various plant compounds, as auxin or gibberellin, that control growth and differentiation of plant tissue. SOURCE: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hormone So, simple question. Is synthetic Human Growth Hormone a drug or a hormone????
You are stupid beyond belief. Hormone are naturaly occuring. I even underlined the definition you posted for you cause you apparently can't comprehend what you read. You can synthesis a hormone, hence they will call it synthetic hormone. It is not the same thing. Are you too stupid to comprehend that? Calling hormone synthetic, what a moron.