What are your strangest boxing opinions?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    We often come to a consensus here at the Classic forum. Everyone and their grandmother rates Louis and Ali as #1 and #2, for example. But each of us also has opinions that are...shall we say...out of the ordinary. Whether it's Duran's deadly stomach cramps or Frank Bruno's place in history, there are some issues where new opinions are always popping up.

    So, let's hear your weird, wild, or just plain different opinions on boxing.
     
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  2. Icemmann

    Icemmann Breakin it down. Full Member

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    Holyfield is the best heavyweight in history, when on top of his game.




    Nobody can withstand his ferocious headbutting ability.
     
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  3. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Firstly; I feel Hatton has the right tools to beat PBF (@ 140).

    secondly; I think Robinson could've beaten Moore in their mooted 1954-55 clash at LHW*

    * As Robinson grew into the Middleweight division, so did his punch resistance, can anyone name one occaision when he was on the ***** street at middle
     
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  4. UpWithEvil

    UpWithEvil Active Member Full Member

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    Primo Carnera was a very good heavyweight, and could hold an alphabet title today.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    A few of mine:

    * Boxing skill is not as important as many think, if you have a combination of natural talent and a lot of practice. Even guys like Hamed and Mayorga have managed to reach the top contender and champion positions of the sport with very unconventional or nonexistent boxing skill.

    * Supermiddleweights and lightheavies could compete with modern heavyweights if both had to use smaller gloves.

    * The 1970's were not a "golden age" for the heavyweight division, and Foreman is not an ATG on the same order as Ali, Louis, Dempsey, etc.

    * Max Schmeling belongs in the top 10 heavyweights of all time.

    * The bareknuckle era is more realistic than the Queensberry Rules period.

    * Corbett would beat most ATG heavyweights under early Queensberry conditions.
     
    cross_trainer, Jul 6, 2007
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  6. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    UpWithEvil is a very good poster and an enrichment for the Classic Boxing Forum on ESB...
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Suprer Greg Page would have had a good chance of upsetting Holmes

    Hopkins would have had a great chance vs Jones when he hit his straps

    Hagler's stiffness when confronted with speedy boxers and/or adverse conditions would give him severe trouble and he is slightly overrated

    Fenech head to head easily makes the top 7 from Bantam to Feather

    Pryor is overrated pertaining to accomplishment

    Mugabi is overrated full stop

    Whitaker is a chance of being the best 135 ever

    Fenech would have smothered the great Gomez

    Eddie Mustafa could have been top 5 175 ever
     
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  8. UpWithEvil

    UpWithEvil Active Member Full Member

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    But that's a prefectly mainstream opinion! :D
     
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  9. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    Of course he is:rolleyes:







    Rocky Marciano is p4p the #1 boxer of all-time!

    So now I guess that makes me the best poster on East Side Forums, right?:rofl
     
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  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    But in all seriousness, he is a good poster. :D
     
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  11. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    I suppose a strange opinion of mine is that I think if Ali wasn't exiled from boxing for those 3½ years, he would have never lost, provided he not make that comeback and fight Larry Holmes.
     
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  12. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Yeah, you´re the best boster here!
     
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  13. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    I'm not saying he isn't, just that Luigi hailed him as such solely because UpWithEvil said something positive about Primo Carnera, who Luigi loves.
     
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  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I believe that in many cases boxers are better after a layoff, since they have a couple years to recuperate from attrition. He may not have been quite as sharp, but I feel that Ali was almost as good as he ever was during his fight with Frazier.

    Without the layoff, he probably would have been worn down to an even greater degree than he actually was when he faced Frazier the first time, and would have lost more decisively.

    (And the above, incidentally, is an unorthodox opinion as well).
     
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  15. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

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    Riddick Bowe could knock out Sam Langford, Jack Dempsey, and Rocky Marciano...

    ... all on the same night.
     
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