Calzaghe Legacy Skyrockets Following Hopkins' Legendary Win Over Pascal

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Floyd hurt his hand in numerous fights. Never nearly lost a decision to a Robin Reid level fighter. Roy Jones dominated Hopkins one handed. It just shows how limited Slaps is even if its true. He also struggled with Starie. Explain.

    Roy Jones was on a completely different level to Hopkins. You should slap yourself for even comparing. Calzaghe is sloppy, amateurish, and as his own promoter even said repeatedly pulled out of fights because he was scared. That is not the recipe to beat a prime Hopkins.

    A faded old Hopkins knocked down Calzaghe, cut his face, landed the harder punches, landed the more telling punches, and won 6 rounds on one judges scorecard and 5 on another. A prime B Hop schools Calzaghe who got an SD against Reid and struggled aginst Starie. :good
     
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    Nah you're just a moron who doesnt understand boxing. Both Abraham and Diaconu fought easy touches as to why they got exposed when the stepped up competition.
     
  3. PetethePrince

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    Sounds like typical "Attack the source not the content."

    Pot calling kettle black? Haven't you had a Floyd avatar of him crying or being arrested? Knocking him? The difference is you're serious, and I'm just being humorous.

    I admit, you're better at trolling than me. Keep it up Paul. :cool: :deal
     
  4. paulfv

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    It doesn't matter if you think the thread title sucks. The point is, for the guy on the street, when he hears that Hopkins wins this fight, can easily think "Hey, didn't Calzaghe beat Hopkins? I guess that Calzaghe guy was better than I thought."

    It doesn't have to be fair or right or anything, it's just how it usually goes.

    For example, the Mavericks swept the Lakers this year in the playoffs. If the Thunder beat the Mavericks, they get extra push for "beating the team that swept the Lakers." It's just the way sports works.

    Some people would get into the entire "well, matchups!" argument. Most won't. And that's why Calzaghe's legacy rises, even if you think it should not.
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

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    Nope. 99% of the guys on the street never even heard of Calzaghe. Hopkins is a legend. Calzaghe is largely forgotten outside of Britain. And will be largely forgotten within Britain in 10 years.

    Hopkins is an ATG legend. Calslaps is barely hall of fame.
     
  6. PetethePrince

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    Crazy agenda driven bias. Can't even acknowledge Hopkins has the superior legacy. He says numbers don't lie, yet persistently claims Pac has achieved more and is the much better fighter than Floyd. When you bring up Kessler-Cazlaghe in comparison to Kessler-Ward he talks about fighters being worse because you know the blueprint to beat them. Who did Pac beat, and when? What do the numbers say about Floyd's record? The inconsistencies are hilarious. When you point them out, he twists your words or alters the arguments. The goal posts are always moving.

    Does Ward's stock go up after Kessler beat Froch by the way? Why even have that fight then? :lol:
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

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    A few years ago this idiot used to rave about Diaconu. :lol: How Dawson was ducking him.,
     
  8. PetethePrince

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    Yep, AA was always a limited flawed fighter. Inferior opposition is always going to make you look better, especially when you're a power puncher.
     
  9. paulfv

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    You're a joke, and I'm tiring of you.

    Reid was a world champion. With 4 successful defenses. Calzaghe beat him by five points on two cards. 116-111. The same score that Calzaghe blew Hopkins out on the one card with. It wasn't close, unless you think the 116-111 score in Calzaghe-Hopkins was close.

    Mayweather-Castillo I scores:

    115-111 FM
    115-111 FM
    116-111 FM

    So, Calzaghe's win over Reid -- even though both men (Floyd, Calz) had damaged hands was even more convincing on one card than was Floyd's first win over Castillo.

    Now, you can say Castillo was better than Reid. Fair. But, how many rounds do you want Calz to win in a fight? A 116 score means Joe is winning at least 8 rounds out of 12. That's not a close fight, at least on the scorecards. How did the one judge give the fight to Reid? No idea, but I've head theories.
     
  10. paulfv

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    Dawson did duck him. That is documented. It's unreal, that Chad did so, especially after you saw the fight tonight. But duck him did Chad.
     
  11. PetethePrince

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    :lol:

    Wish I was here to see that. I'm sure prime Diaconu beats prime Chad Dawson as an indication of how well a faded version did against him. :rofl Whoops, those rules won't apply to Hopkins-Calslappy though.
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

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    Look at this thread. Everyones laughing at you. Numerous people posted threads making fun of your premise. Nobody considers your opinion any more then a joke.

    Reid was a C level fighter at best. Both Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather dominated far superior fighters then Reid during their careers with injuries. Floyd beating CAstillo with a torn rotator cuff is far superior then Slaps SD over a Robin Reid.

    Nope. One judge had Slaps losing 116-111.



    Nope. Floyd won a UD. Slaps won an SD. You really are a moron arent you? :rofl

    Jose Luis Castillo was the best lightweight of his generation. Reid was a nobody. Won a paper belt at one of the weakest divisions in boxing and beat nobody of note. CAstillo has wins over Corrales and Casamayor.
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    He actually scored 5 rounds for Diaconu. :lol: He's either really ******ed or a no life troll. Im guessing the former.
     
  14. paulfv

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    Dawson ducked Diaconu. Why? He says it was because he wanted to fight bigger names. But, he had to drop his belt to do so. The first time the two men fought, Diaconu was legitimately hurt leading up to the fight. After that, Chad ran from the fight. Why? Don't know. But run he did.
     
  15. paulfv

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    And Lederman had 4 rounds for Diaconu. So, we disagreed on one round, likely. I'll take that.