Surely Hopkins surpassed his great rival the other night?

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    This.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquaio wasn't a flyweight at welterweight, he was a welterweight and he hasn't won fought the WW Championship anyway (that belongs to Mayweather). He was a drained 112lbs at 20 and by the age of 26yo he was weighing 142lbs in the ring and draining to 130lbs, Mayweather was actually weighing 138lbs in the ring as a 25yo. Pacquaio isn't really any smaller in the ring at WW or LMW than Mayweather was

    Saying Pacquaio is a flyweight winning titles is like saying Jones Jr was a light middleweight winning titles at heavyweight, its the same bull****

    Jones Jr fought opponents ranging in 80lbs from his career start weight of 154lbs as a 20yo to facing a 235lb Heavyweight Titlist. Pacquaio only moved up 38lbs, going from 112lbs to 150lbs, Ruiz is also better than the MArgarito Pac fought
     
  3. Imperial1

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    No he's a 2 time lt heavy weight champ I beleive Jones did that long before Hopkins decided to move up ..His age can't be over looked but he has yet to surpass Roy as far as accomplishments ..
     
  4. Commando

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    I think you have to take a long look at Hopkins career and look at where and when he faced some of his opponents. He should not be placed ahead of Jones yet, Jones still has the better wins, no doubt.

    Only gonna do top 5 wins for now, but look there's a gap in the wins with Jones ahead. Sorry but i have to defend my second lover RJJ to da limit. I only defend fighters when i know I am right and i know i am still right on this one.

    James Toney
    John Ruiz
    Bernard Hopkins
    Virgil Hill
    Antonio Tarver

    Felix Trinidad
    Antonio Tarver
    Kelly Pavlik
    Jean Pascal
    Jean Pascal II :yep / Glen Johnson
     
  5. Jay23

    Jay23 Guest

    Hopkins is a beast :deal
    Hopkins > Roid Jones by a country mile.
    Ultimate respect to Hopkins
     
  6. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wins over tito,pavilk,odlh,tarver,wright,pascal **** over rjj career
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Roy is still better. His resume is still superior. Just list the names side by side and Roy still is the superior fighter. Prime 4 prime Roy kicks B Hops ass aswell. B Hop would never be able to cope with Roys style. A shot roy jones gave Hopkins pause.


    If B Hop beats Dawson, Bute and maybe Ward. Then he's better
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

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    Tito and Oscar were welters. Tarver already was beaten by Roy. Wright was fat. Pavlik and Pascal were solid victories, but Roy Jones has far superior to that.
     
  9. Imperial1

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    How quickly people forget that Jones was already making his mark at lt heavy and he never fought the weakest guy in the division ..Anyone with an ounce of knowledge knew before these two fights with Jean that he wasn't Bhops league now all of a sudden he propells Hopkins past Jones :patschUgh I think I will refrain from posting until 72 hrs after a big fight ..Plus Jones victories over Hill,Toney Bhops(closer to primes ) ,Reggie Johnson and Tarver where much better wins over two blown up welters ,a blown up jr middle in Winky and the super plodder in Kelly Pavlik ..