Hopkins, Pac, DLH, RJJ and FLoyd in same ATG vicinity.

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  1. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Bhop is above oscar but RJJ? I always hated his cocky ways... Did you see him get knocked out ugly yesterday? :lol:


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    slugger3000, May 22, 2011
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  2. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    MAB or Morales has more claim than Marquez.
     
    dodong, May 22, 2011
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Lol I always laugh when people say joe louis is great. I always reply with "really please explain his accomplishments outside his heavyweight championship campaign"
     
    lufcrazy, May 22, 2011
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  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Its funny what people consider an accomplishment these days :lol:
     
    Imperial1, May 22, 2011
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  5. u29236

    u29236 Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah but Vargas and Mosley was on PEDs and some people thought Oscar beat Mosley on the 2nd fight where he was on PEDs. These werent just normal steroids, these were BALCO PEDs that people who were known to be on BALCO PEDS were breaking records ie Bonds, countless of track stars, and Marion Jones only showing the quality of BALCO peds were.
     
    u29236, May 22, 2011
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  6. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, everybody except a few corrupt judges had him beating Trinidad EASY.

    Many had him beating Mosley in their 2nd fight.

    He beat an undefeated Chavez TWICE, and yea Chavez was old, but Manny gets credit for beating old as fuk fighters so why shouldn't Oscar?

    Also add Ruelas, Whitaker and Quartey and Vargas to that list.
     
    Flexb, May 22, 2011
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  7. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Morales.
     
    JM22, May 22, 2011
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  8. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Won't argue with anyone who suggests the great Mexican Trio(Morales, JMM and Mab) belong in the same group.
     
    Gonzarelli, May 22, 2011
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  9. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao
    Roy Jones/Bernard Hopkins

    Oscar de la Hoya
    Floyd Mayweather
    (Evander Holyfield)

    Thats how I see it based on official verdicts too. If I try and play with how I saw fights.

    Manny Pacquiao
    Oscar de la Hoya
    Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones Jr.

    Floyd Mayweather
    (Evander Holyfield)
     
    LancsTerrible, May 22, 2011
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  10. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    If you include them I think you should really include Lewis and Mosley aswell.
     
    LancsTerrible, May 22, 2011
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  11. MAIN

    MAIN Boxing Junkie banned

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    fruit
     
    MAIN, May 22, 2011
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  12. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    THis is you:
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    Leon, May 22, 2011
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  13. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    all clearly above julio cocaine chavez on every respectable atg list.
     
    Boom_Boom, May 22, 2011
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  14. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    If we are talking P4P H2H?

    RJJ
    Floyd
    Pac
    Hopkins
    DLH

    If you start talking resume.... it's a bit different
    If you start talking about what their resume would have looked like without corrupt judges.... it's a bit different again
    If you start talking intangibles like jumping weightclasses, longevity, beating up on bigger or smaller guys.... then who knows what the **** you would come up with.
     
    rushman, May 22, 2011
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  15. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They are NOT on the same level. Pac and BHop/RJJ are level above them.
     
    tinorknitz, May 22, 2011
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