If he wasn't American, would Chad Dawson get more love?

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  1. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His resume is far and away better than so many fighters who get a lot of attention. Honestly, it's better than anything Calzaghe has done and look at all the love he gets.
     
  2. miggzthatnucca

    miggzthatnucca Active Member Full Member

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    That's not true ... u have ward, dawson, bradley, paul williams we can even take it to guys like shane or even mayweather .... all talented americans considered elite fighters ... but none could sell the house out anywhere In the US with the exception of mayweather ... but let's make one thing clear ... mayweather has always been a stand out ... mayweather isn't selling because his ability ... his success come from his role as the "villain of the sport" .... his mouth, his antics, his cockyness, his immaturity is what sells ... floyd had always been an elite fighter ... and a p4p fighter since 98 yet he became a world recognized fighter in 07 ...
     
  3. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've always thought a ton of Mayweather's money comes from people hoping to watch him get KTFO. That's the only reason I have bought his fights. Dawson doesn't have that villian role.
     
  4. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beg to differ. Look how long it took JMM to get the Mexicans recognition. He had to tweak his style and become easier to hit. He was alot more exciting than Dawson is right now and he still was not accepted.

    He is really not that boring but he just shows no hunger. He doesnt try to KO opponents much. He is content with getting the UD.
     
  5. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    His style is more accepted in Europe and some countries that don't produce many world class athletes would cherish him, but in America you have to exciting inside the ring or at least charismatic outside of it.

    Mayweather gets away with a boring style because he knows how to sell himself. Same thing with Hopkins to some extent, although he certainly wasn't a draw for most of his career.

    I'm a Dawson fan but don't blame others for not flocking to him. He doesn't have a big personality naturally so needs to be thrilling in his matches, and his combination of uneven performances and inactivity have stalled him out.

    Not sure he'll regain the promise exhibited against Adamek, but I'll keep cheering for him.
     
  6. miggzthatnucca

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    It is but I wouldn't say that it wipes calz ... I think cal is a bit over rated but he has an undeafeated record with some nice wins on that record ... benn, lacy, kessler, and bhop ... tho lacys name doesn't look as good as it looked back then ... u HAVE to credit joe for that ... lacy was looked to be the next best thing ... and joe humiliated him and he has never ben the same ... I think joe was the turning point to lacys career and I consider it a big win for joe

    Joe never lost ... never took a fight off ... gotta give him credit for that ...I can't say the same thing about chad no matter how much i dislike joe and like chad ...
     
  7. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no! If he werent american, he would've been ignored like Erdei.

    America still has the most boxers and biggest boxing fanbase. He was considered top 5 before the Pascal fiasco
     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I actually think young African-American fighters are usually the most overhyped grouping in boxing. Becuase historically, the sports best fighters have consistently been from that same grouping. So it's easier for black Americans to be accepted as exceptional fighters, rather than others who don't fit the historical archetype (little Asian fellows, for example.) Guys like Lacy, Dawson, and Alexander, to a lesser extent; Ward and Bradley, are good examples of this practise. So to answer your question - No, he wouldn't.
     
  9. miggzthatnucca

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    But that's an exception because he had 2 other mexican rivals in the same division who had more of a "mexican style" ... so in that case anyone would choose the one they relate to more, imagine having 2 more that u can relate to.. with that said he still had support ... especially after the manny draw
     
  10. jeffjoiner

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    Maybe he's not quite on that level, but an argument can be made. A prime Adamek and two wins over Johnson are pretty impressive. So much so that I'm sure that if he was representing Germany they would be brought up repeatedly.
     
  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well that's a depressing question.
     
  12. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks for the feedback. So, if he was from London, had the same resume, same fighting style, and a bout upcoming with Hopkins, the fans there wouldn't give him any more support than he's getting here?
     
  13. Stinky gloves

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    He wouldn't be even recognized .... is Erdei loved for an example?
     
  14. miggzthatnucca

    miggzthatnucca Active Member Full Member

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    That's not entirely true ...erdei has a following in germany ...

    Fights are made in america because the media in the us is basicly global media .... a european fighter come to the us and both the us and europe are going to pay attention no matter where its being broadcast ... if an american fighter fights in europe .. americans won't follow the us fighter unless its on showtime, hbo or showtime
     
  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Good point. But Britain is a smaller talent pool, theoretically we should have fewer world class fighters, so we would be more likely to support the few that we do have. Dawson is competing with a lot of others guys for love and attention.