USS vs Lebedev: who is the best CW-Boxer in the world?

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  1. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lebedev has power advantage and seems too have a rock solid chin,
    USS on the other side is much taller, has reach advantage and a superior jab.

    One beat Huck, the other got robbed. So a fight between both would determin who the best is in one of boxing strongest divisions.
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why not Guillermo Jones? He beat Cunningham on many scorecards, obviously not on the officials. I never understood the Cunningham hype. His claim of fame is beating a very green Huck, finishing 1-1 vs. Wlodarczyk and outpointing ol'Braithwaite while he lost to Adamek, looked unimpressive to say at least vs. Ross and past his best vs. Licina. Have we just got used to calling him the best CW or is there REAL substance on his resume I'm missing?
     
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    zenek2 Active Member Full Member

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    IN their match i'd put my money on lebedev, cunnigham has way better resume though.
     
  4. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Cunningham fights Lebedev the way he fought Adamek, he will most likely lose. It really depends on who manages to impose their style over the other fighter. Lebedev is really too slow for Cunningham and so I think the only chance for him is a stoppage, which is a real possibility. Cunningham's chin, while not glass, is average.
     
  5. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lebedev is strong but i think guillermo jones would beat the crap out of him! even now!
     
  6. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    If an old, shot, fat and flabby RJJ can pot shot and outbox Lebedev then Cunningham wont lose a round.
     
  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    id rather Cunningham in a rematch with Huck or rubbermatch with Diablo
     
  8. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I think I'd favour Lebedev. Cunningham is a good boxer but nothing special - at some point Lebedev gets to him and he has the power to put him away.

    I'd like to see this happen though - there's no clear #1 in the division and this could help provide some clarity.
     
  9. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Oh and Guillermo Jones head to head beats anyone at Cruiserweight.
     
  10. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it also depends where they fight, because the jab & grab tactic of so many fighters often plays for them, mostly when the ref protects the graber. uss is much taller, so lebedev would have too fight in the inside, if cunn holds, him every time denis comes in and the ref doesnt say anything except break than uss should have an easy night.

    question: is grabin n holding illegal, if you make it too often?
     
  11. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the problem with guill is he never fights....if he would come in shape, with the huge size he has, the iron chin I would favor him also over anybody, but he is overweight, looks unchaped and lebedev hits hard.
     
  12. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    very true! im glad that jones is fighting on june 25 again!
    And next one if he wins is the also talented cuban hernandez!
     
  13. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    never saw his fight vs uss and jhonny nelson, heard it got robbed in both fights, this rue?
     
  14. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes i thought he won against cunningham!
    never saw the nelson fight though
     
  15. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I heard he got robbed big time in this one, that he dominated nelson, even hurt him, it is hard too win in the UK