ray robinson is actually overrated

1. Robinson
2. Leonard
3. Hearns
4. Mayweather


Duran, Pacquiao, Armstrong, Pryor are competitive as lighter weights.

 

I rank his the same as Armstrong, so hes either overratted or Armstrong is underrated. I think its a bit of both. Like you said though they are both among the top few greatest ever

 

Robinson has not fought or beaten a black american slick boxer ...

... or an asian bruce lee.

Yes, he is overrated than what people in general figures him to be.

 

Sure, like if Martinez took Floyds 0. Satterfield was a huge huge powerpuncher that had great power for any era, but poor stamina. Fighters back then like Pep, Charles, B Leonard to name a few extremely skillful even by todays standards and to have a majority of people agree he is the best cant argue with that. Floyd fights Manny and Sergio then we can compare to the likes of Robinson. Floyd and Manny fighting fighters without a pulse. If they fought Robinson theyd have no pulse. SRR paid his dues vs the best the funny thing is Floyd and Manny fit the description of overrated like a glove. Oh the irony.

 

Actually, one of the reasons I don't rate Robinson as the GOAT among his contenders is that he wanted none of quite a few very talented and deadly fighters. SRR has a great resume, but i can't compare him ducking guys like Cocoa Kid and Burley and co. when guys like Langford and Greb were scaling under 170lbs and being completely avoided by their HW champs of the era(for good reason).

 

The fact that Robinson hit very hard with both hands and had hands that were arguably just as fast as Leonards, means you could make a case for him knocking out Leonard. I don't see him knocking Leonard out, but Robinson could KO fighter's who weren't chinny.

 

SRR fought many slick black American fighters, LQ. He won the vacant welter title from Tommy Bell, starched Sugar Costner, beat Ralph Dupas 'n Holly Mims, plus Henry Armstrong wasn't chopped liver.

 

The man dodged his generation's premier slick black american fighter in Burley:deal

Other than that, his peak record is amazing. H2H, everyone is human.

 

It is true that people hold fighters today to a different standard though. You lose once or twice today and you're overrated and always were and you'd never beat a fighter from 60 years ago.

 

Most of us will probably be the same nostalgic diehards:

New boxing fan in 2050:
"I think (Pacquaio, Mayweather, Klitchko, etc) sucked. I think (insert some new great fighter) would have beaten him."

ESBer:
"WTF?? You KIDS DON'T KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING!!!!!"

 

The sports fans are really uncompromising.

Old guys won't hear of any modern fighter being great - Yound fans wana write off a fighter as soon as they loose their 0, or heaven forbid, 2 or 3 fights.

There has to be a happy medium somewhere.

 

Floyd struggled with a past his prime DLH how is he going to beat SRR FFS? Hilarious. Like comparing a mighty morphin power ranger to Bruce Lee. And the pink ranger at that.

 

will SRR bet 17 pounds heavier?

 

:deal

 

How did Floyd struggle with Oscar? He was literally laughing at Oscar during the fight.

I have a hard time seeing Floyd beating Ray Robinson, but I don't think it'd be the blowout alot of people think it would. Floyds a hard guy to hit clean, a great counter puncher and that matches up well with a guy with a high workrate.

Still, I think Robinson would beat him but Floyd would make it interesting.