Why is Calz vs B-Hop considered "close"?

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  1. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing isn't like Soccer for example, where the criteria for winning is agree upon by all. No one can argue with the results in soccer because of that. In boxing, everyone's criteria may be different from that of the judges. So the official scores may not always be well received by the public. Because of that, people can only interpret their own scoring of a fight. It would be difficult to interpret a judges score because we don't know what criteria they used for that night.
     
  2. IrnBruMan

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    Really?

    So why is a fight judged round by round then?

    Why is a 10-point "must" system in place?

    Why don't the judges just submit a single total score at the end of each fight?
     
  3. PATSYS

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    :yep
     
  4. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't lederman give Pacman 7 rounds in his first fight with Marquez? Needless to say he's made mistakes in the past. Who cares if they were Americans. That only makes a difference if you also knew for a fact they were biased towards American fighters. I scored the fight for Joe C. by the way but after watching it again it did seem like Hopkins landed the harder punches.
     
  5. Sean Juan

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    Hopkins probably lost with his crap antics, trying to get Calzaghe DQ'd on fouls in his hometown. rofl at Cortez. "My Paycheck!!"
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  6. Boxing Fanatic

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    read the thread, noobie
     
  7. purephase

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    Yes points are awarded by round, but a statistic like "rounds won" is utterly meaningless. Why don't they announce the results of fights by saying "Calzaghe won 7 rounds to 5"? Hopkins clearly won over half of the rounds against Pascal the first time, but it was still a "close fight" and "controversial" because of the point differentials resulting from the knockdowns. Marquez won over half of the rounds against Pacquiao in their first fight, but it was still "close" and "controversial" because he was knocked down multiple times. This isn't rocket science.
     
  8. Sean Juan

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    I won't be bullied.
     
  9. IrnBruMan

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    As I've said previously, I don't wish to discuss why I believe Calzaghe won the fight or listen to other people's reasons for why they believe Hopkins won the fight as it's been done to death on these boards.

    I'm interested in seeing if the people who believe it was a close or controversial fight have actually analysed the final scores and understand that while it was a split decision, it most certainly wasn't a close result.

    It seems that the people who believe Hopkins won the fight rely on either their opinion or undermining the judges who scored the fight.

    I find this interesting, because I'm sure those same people have adhered to the scorecards in other fights that have had far more controversial outcomes than the Calzaghe vs Hopkins fight had.
     
  10. IrnBruMan

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    :lol:
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

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    ah, another troll
     
  12. PATSYS

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    Who said it was close BASED on the official scorecards?
     
  13. Sean Juan

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    Damn. Exposed.
     
  14. Boxing Fanatic

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    nah, dude, dont take it personal. there is a lot of trolls on here. they seem to think they are really bugging the shite of people, but, they really arent. been here a while:good
     
  15. IrnBruMan

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    I agree that Hopkins vs Pascal 1 was close but not controversial.

    Pac vs JMM 1 was also close and controversial because one of the judges ****ed up his scorecard.

    Calzaghe vs Hopkins featured only 1 KD which was scored correctly as a 10-8 round to Hopkins so I don't know why you've attempted to draw comparison with the 2 abovementioned fights.

    What was controversial or close about the scores that clearly and widely favour Calzaghe on 2 of the judges cards, and a single point win to Hopkins due to the KD on the 3rd judge's card?