Calzaghes impressive resume

You should take your act on the road. Funny stuff! Even mcguigan looks at joe's resume and laughs.

 

If a worse post exists in this dimension i have yet to see it.

 

Calzaghe fought only bums and old men.

 

Calzage fought the best of his times.

People forget Lacy was on a roll and was completely dominated by Calzage but most favored Lacy prior to their fight.

Kessler was a tough obstacle and unbeaten also and Joe DOMINATED. In the Hopkins fight it was Joe moving up from his favored weight to fight in the light-heavy division, still I felt Joe won the fight clearly and this was completely evident when B-Hop was faking a foul several times late in the fight to get a rest from Calzages pace. What else would the reason be but to break Joe's momentum.

At times Joe threw pitty-patty -punches because of his fragile hands but he had real power when he planted himself.

Roy Jones he could have stopped but showed Roy mercy which I fell was the right thing to do.

People can say B-Hop was old but Bernards best wins came after Calzage, Pavlik,Pascal,Jones

Calzage won every fight and that is a very hard thing to do and against the type of opposition he faced its hard to have 46 fights without a mishap

I think he won every fight he had without any doubt

 

This is true.

 

Sorry bummy

Way off base. He missed a lot of marquee bouts

On a roll of what? I dont remember everyone favoring him. Lacy's nickname says it all because thats all he had.

Kesller had to be the most overated fighter going into his fight with Calzahge, but on second thought maybe Lacy was..

What does that mean, that he showed mercy on an upright corpse?

I agree with this, although I dont think too highly of those other fighters. Hopkins is by far his best win although his style was favorable to beat the old man, just as Taylo'rs was. The fights were comparable.

I think Joe was a very good fighter, but his comp is very suspect for his skills. Its not really hard to compile a record like his given his competition. His biggest fight has a ? on it as some people feel Hopkins won.

 

While I think you are blinded to any counter points on Joe, because of your unabashed love of him, I do agree w/ this point. I think Joe clearly is lacking in the resume, department and while you cling to 46-0, 43-3 against stiffer competition would endear him to many more and likely raise his overall evaluation or at least give us a better indicator of how he compares in a realistic sense.

However I do agree w/ the closing statement. I don't rank Calzaghe nearly as high as you do, but at 168 I think he could be competitive w/ just about anyone at that weight.

 

Calzaghe's resume is underrated on the Classic forum, it wasn't ambitious enough, the back end of it from

2006-2008 - excellent

2003-2006 period is bloody terrible and he was a laughing during that time, pulling out injured on Glen Johnson 2-3 times, the quality is terrible at this time

2002-2003 was decent, with 2 ex champs in Mitchell and Brewer.

2001 was another wasted year.

1999-2000 was pretty good with 2 ex WBC champs

1998 - another wasted year

1997 - a very good win over a faded great

So all in all he had 5 wasted years, which is why he gets the **** taken out of him, but he has 6 pretty good years, where he's facing around 1 and sometimes 2 top opponents per year

 

Ex champs dont really mean much if they're shot to pieces. Brewer was in horrible condition going into his fight with Calzahge. I watched him get battered in training, he was shot to ****. Jones as we know was a corpse. Warren was great at picking opponents to fill the arena, but its hard to say Calzahge fought any fighter on his level at their best, so its impossible to rank him up there with them. For the record, I think his style would always give Hopkins some problems.

 

I'm not saying they were the best of the best, but objectively:

Eubank - a past great, would go on to deserve a Cruser title, albeit he was drained against Calzaghe, still an impressive dominant performance

Hopkins - still maybe the best LHW, obviously past prime, I had Hops winning

Kessler - I don't think he's great but he was cleaning out the division at the time, bat prime Mundine when he was decent, destroyed Beyer, beat Froch while injured

Jones Jr - pretty much shot, but still a decent top10 contender even if not that the same

Mitchell - a close fight with Otke some had him winning the prior year, not shot but past his best yes

Brewer - probably beat Ottke at least once 2 years before. He was ko'd by Echols but Echols was a banger, didn't do anything after, certainly past his best though

Woodhall - past his best but not shot

Lacy - he was ruined that night by Calzaghe, I thought that watching him taking a sustained beating, no he was never technically great but not as bad as people think now and yes allot of people picked him to beat Joe and he was on a red hot run of sorts at the time. Interestingly Hopkins didn't reply to Lacy's call for a 164lb catch weight fight at the time for whatever reason

Reid - was pretty much prime (that 1 was close)

As a resume I'd say its up there with Monzon, who's best wins are all past prime themself and who's prime opponents like Joe's are a tad basic

 

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Calzaghe is unfairly treated, though I think the passing of time will be favorable to him. He fought the best and beat the best (how any unbiased observor can have him losing to Hopkins is beyond me)... Many of the same accusations made against him are never mentioned in regards to, say, the beatified Marciano.

 

Did I make a Monzon fairy die?

43yo Hopkins, 31yo Eubank, 28yo KEssler, 29yo Mitchell, 39yo Jones Jr, Kessler > 34yo smaller Griffith, 34yo LW Napoles, 32yo Benvenuti (with 3 losses in 18months), 29yo Valdez, 29yo Briscoe

Well maybe not, but it's pretty close