Carl Froch "Dirrell´s weak"

Exactly as I saw it. Totally agree Dirrell landed much better looking punches but spent way too much of the fight holding and running. Honestly, John Ruiz never held as much as Dirrell did in that fight.

 

Why isnt there any highlights of Froch landing punches? What about Froch's rabbit punches, slamming Dirrell down to the ground ect?


What say you about Dirrell hurting Froch in the 10th.


Btw, post your scorecard.

 

If the fight is in England then the local fighter is allowed to apply UFC rules while the crowd cheers on. That's exactly what happened here and a classic body slam by Froch which didn't even get him warned. All that and he still got a robbery.

 

He definitely seemed buzzed then to me too. If only Dirrell was doing that earlier...

 

1.Because Frochs punches were sloppy.

2. I say good round for Dirrell.

3.Geez, I don't remember my scorecard. I didn't give Dirrell many rounds until quite late in the fight though.

Dirrell had the tools to win the fight and I think if he'd let his hands go, he could have stopped Froch but he just didn't do enough in the fight. The Dirrell that showed up against Abraham likely would have clearly beaten Froch.

 

It was more of a judo throw.

What was Froch supposed to do? The holding was ridiculous.

 

Round 5. Look how effortlessly Dirrell is schooling Froch. I dont even think Froch landed a punch the entire round. The only thing Froch did do was body slam Dirrell for no reason. Presumably because he was angry he was getting schooled so badly. Thats basically Froch's work for the entire fight. Body slams and rabbit punches. Nary a clean punch landed

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipBpCJLYSU&feature=related[/ame]


Keep in mind this was Dirrell's first 12 round fight. A prospect schooling a veteran essentially

 

So even though one fighter landed more punches, more effective punches and actually hurt the other guy you gave the fight to the fighter who couldnt land anything. Show me the boxing rule book you are taking notes from.

 

Froch is up there with Toney as the best talker in boxing. Unfortunately he isnt such a good boxer. He got a gift against Dirrell.

Don't be surprised if he gets another gift against the Road Warrior.

I'd love to see him get put on his arse. Glen Johnson is no back pedalling for anyone.

 

Dirrell doesn't get any consideration for it being his first 12 rounder.
Dirrell had some good rounds, I'm not knocking him but he lost this fight IMO.
there were too many rounds like this (vid below). What, am I supposed to give Dirrell the round for 3 body punches? These guys were close in terms of punches landed but there are other scoring criteria as well. Dirrell was constantly getting caught in corners and getting touched on the way out. Thats froch being the ring general IMO. Froch was always the aggressor.

Judges had a choice of the guy landing crisper punches and then running around making faces or the guy landing goofier punches but working his ass off to land them.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-rfpLod9Vk[/ame]

 

"I made easy work of Andre Dirrell. I’ve done more damage shaving myself than what Andre Dirrell did." - Carl Froch ????


I cant believe this man has the nerve to even say something like this , When he was so clearly outclassed and recieved a gift . If i was him ,i would never ever comment on that fight .

 

Pretty much.

Dirrell didn't land crisper punches round by round. He did it in a few select rounds but he was inconsistent, lost a point for holding and lost all other scoring criteria IMO.

I used the boxing book that doesn't count punches to score a fight. I forget the title.

 

Nah,
Froch won that fight.
No dispute. In clinches Dirrell looked shocked that Froch was still punching. Turning to the ref and complaining about being hit in the clinch.

You count punches that land in the clinch. You don't arbitrarily state "everything except those".

 

in terms of scoring the fight? No. In terms of schooling a veteran yes.

Froch had no good rounds.

If you dont go by rules of scoring a boxing fight I suppose you could give the fight to Froch.

If the other fighter doesnt land anything then yes.

Boxing is scored by: (In order from most importance to least importance btw)

1. Clean effective punching (Dirrel won this wide)
2. Effective aggression (Froch was the aggressor but it was by no means effective, he scores nothing here)
3. Ring Generalship (Easily Dirrell. He was able to commit to offense and defense at will, go anywhere in the ring he wanted, and initiate contact when he wanted)
4. Defense(Dirrell by domination)


If you score each round like you're supposed to there is no way Froch should win the fight.

And easily slipping out of the corners with Froch landing nothing.

You need to learn what ring generalship is.

Ring generalship is defined as

"such points as the ability to quickly grasp and take advantage of every opportunity offered, the capacity to cope with all kinds of situations which may arise; to foresee and neutralize an opponent’s method of attack; to force an opponent to adopt a style of boxing at which he is not particularly skillful."

You even defined Froch's attack as goofy.


Btw, its EFFECTIVE aggression. Not aggression.

Not how you score a boxing match. See above. Thats what you call bad judging.