Freddie Roach:

and there you have it folks....freddie said theyd beat floyd...just honest freddie telling it like it is

cause wed all expect freddie to say "i dont really like our chances in a fight against floyd...its very risky...and we might lose"!!!

 

So I guess that's is your excuse for JMM losing? That he's losing to PAC b/c the fight is at 147? Well...actually JMM requested a catch weight which PAC accepted of 144. A weight that Manny will actually make unlike some other boxers who dicked him.

PAC can make 135.....but JMM is REMATCHING PAC! Not the other way around. JMM is looking for the Glory, therefore he's going UP to meet PAC and PAC was nice enough to Meet him half way.

Had JMM rematched PAC after he got that gift draw, the 3rd fight would have happened yrs ago...

 

Sounds typical of a fighters mentality. You don't hear Floyd saying "I don't want to fight PAC, he's too much of a risk for me to chance losing my undefeated record".

Instead we get the typical dialogue about how he'd do "this" and "that" IF he were ever to fight PAC, backed by a bunch of excuses that only hurt the possibility to make this fight reality.

We got Floyd going on an extended vacation, we got accusations about PAC being a cheat without any evidence, we have special requirements for testing from Floyd in order for him to feel comfortable doing what he's been doing 16 + yrs......We see Floyd finding a woman to marry and demands of a ridiculous amount as his guarantee to fight PAC.

 

lolol....i said tailor made "at this juncture" ******...the sad part is that you actually think pac will be fighting the marquez from the last two fights.....he wont be....but im sure in your head itll be the same guy so you can feel like pac is a hero

marquez likes to trade...not because hes a warrior(although i wouldnt disagree that he is)...but because its conducive to his style...he needs the other man to throw in order to do what he wants to do and counter....thats why many felt like floyd was a terrible style matchup for him...because he wont press the action....and that makes jmm uncomfortable....

in his last two fights...hes beaten a guy at 135 who was beaten by paulie probably twice...and beat a b level brawler...

well see if a 38 year old marquez has the legs to hang with pac at 144....u dont have to tell me about the great jmm...im one of his biggest fans....but this fight is one that is certainly past its due date....i hope im very wrong though...and we get a good fight...

 

when floyd fought jmm you all bitched and moaned

"omg floyds making this guy come up two weight classes....omg jmm cant carry his effectiveness up that high...omg floyd is cherrypicking....omg jmm hasnt even beaten anyone at that weight"....still hasnt fyi

it was the same thing....jmm chasing the glory...jmm challenging floyd

what we had were to real close, great, fights....now they want the third fight when jmm is 38....still hasnt beaten anyone north of 135

sad part is...jmm wanted a rematch after the first fight...the draw...and we were spun more typical bs about how jmm and nacho rejected a good deal....and instead took a peanuts fight with chris john in indonesia....when the reality is...jmm was given a ****, insulting offer, thatd hed surely reject...right from the get go....

you guys are so delusional its not even funny anymore

 

Reality check.......The PED user has waited too long, Marquez will be 38 years old.....

38 years old and Pacquiao is forcing the fight to be at 144 lbs when both can make 140 lbs with ease.

Reality check....under the circumstances, Pacquiao has put himself in position where has has everything to lose.

Marquez is in a position where he has absolutely nothing to lose.

Marquez has a free play down field.....
Marquez is playing with house money!

Guess what *******? You can walk into a Casino, play with house money, and walk away and go home victorious and with millions in your pocket!dealdeal




LOL, the *******s have been fearful from the moment Marquez schooled Pacquiao in that rematch, that the rematch would happen to soon......
They are still nervous about this fight, but there not as fearful knowing that Marquez is over 3 years older and fighting above his best weight.

The reality is that despite Marquez' disadvantages, he's still got a realistic chance to repeat his two first performances. Skillwise he's that good, and Pacquiao has gotten accustomed to fighthing much lesser skilled and stationary fighters.


How sweeeeeeeeeeet it will be for an ancient Juan Manuel Marquez to repeat his two performances vs the PED user and quiet you *******s for good!:bbb:bbb:bbb


House money!deal:deal

 

When Floyd fought JMM it was just as bad as it is now with JMM fighting Manny. seriously....the reality is JMM has NO chance against PAC....just like he had ZERO chance in beating Floyd at 144 or 146....whatever catch weight they finalized after Floyd missed fulfilling the terms of the original contract.

But JMM is his own man...he's looking to cash in on the PAC lottery ticket and he's willing to "ho" himself out for the retirement check. He did the same thing with his fight with Floyd.

JMM is only getting this shot b/c Floyd isn't stepping up to fight PAC b/c he's too concerned about his chances of losing to Manny and no longer having that undefeated record he's so hell bend on protecting.

If you can somehow find something positive in JMM DUCKING PAC after that gift draw after their 1st fight, god bless you! JMM ****ed himself and stalled his career b/c he wasn't interested in dancing with PAC against after getting away with draw.

Instead he took short money to fight Chris in Indonesia which he lost...albiet a contraversial loss. but he should have taken the immediate rematch which he would have had a MUCH better chance in betting THAT version of Manny...who was still improving and still very much one demensional.

JMM didn't look to rematch PAC until after he became a superstar in the sport and wanted to cash in. And he lost......now that PAC has gotten rid of all the other top names who are WILLIng to fight, he's giving JMM his last shot.

It's gotta be hard for you guys who are so hell bent on creating things to discredit PAC. You dudes stay on your grind....it's hysterical.:rofl

 

You're still living in fantasy land 99.......

The only people that dont acknowleadge it are *******s, but its common knowleadge to those that remember the negotiations that Arum pulled a ***** move on Marquez and wanted to match his cash cow Morales with Pacquiao because Morales was fresh out of having lost to MAB.........

Nacho Beristain was furious when Arum announced the first Pac-Morales fight.
Arum had offered Marquez 650k, but Nacho wanted to negotiate. Arum never gave them that chance, and when it was announced that Arum had made Pac-Morales, Nacho had smoke coming out of his ears....
....yeah, that sounds alot like team Marquez ducked Pacquiao.:nut

You *******s never can deal with reality.

 

****....JMM ****ed himself when he ducked PAC after the first fight which saw him take advantage of skeeting away with his belts that were based on a bogus draw.

He could have beaten PAC in an immediate rematch before he became a complete fighter. Now he has no chance! He did well in the rematch that JMM finally decided was worth the risk after PAC's stock was rising fast....but now he's strictly in it for the reitrement check.

Of course PAC has EVERYTHING to lose!:rofl What the **** do you think he can go from this point? He's already on top of the world....he can stay at this level or fall. What goes up,......at some point comes down eventually.

JMM's career is towards the end and this is his shot! it's a long shot that is nearly impossible but no one can question JMM's warriors spirit. He'll give it a good go knowing that the mission is next to impossible. On the upside he gets paid and paid well....like he did in the other fight that he had no chance in with Floyd. the money was worth it for JMM.

Guess what you simple silly little man..:rofl JMM deserves to get the fights he wants and to get paid for it. he's given boxing a lot of great moments and fights.

So more power to him however he stretches his money for taking the beating that coming in November. "House Money"......Gurantee Purse...PPV perks...whatever.....I hope he gets as much money as possible. I think he deserves it.

JMM never schooled PAC..he got in some good work, won some rounds but at the end of the day PAC beat him TWICE in close fights. You can call "robbery" and look like a fool if you want, but it only exposes you for being a very upset and irrational fan who's favorite fighter lost. I'd tell you to get over it but if you havn't yet then you never will.

And it's even funnier how you clutch on to the whole PED drama as it it has any validity becasue you are struggling to cope with PAC outshining Juan. JMM drinks ****.....more than likely if anyone is "dirty" its your boy.:yep

 

I remember it well.....It's a simple case of JMM ducking out of the fight and using any excuse to justify making an OBVIOUS STUPID decision that he's done paid for in many different ways.

$650K is greater than $30K bro.:rofl Spin it however you want but the rematch was there for the taking, but the money wasn't worth the risk for JMM at the time. PAC vs EM wouldn't have been made at that point if JMM didn't ***** out.

You're just as bad as some of the Floyd ho's and *******s with your jacked up perception of reality.:rofl I know you dudes stay frustrated as **** trying to come up with anything you can to justify your stance that has NO foundation.

Good luck with that kid...

 

Let's summarize what you said then:

1. JMM has absoultely no chance of beating Pac now,

2. I'd jack off at the sight of Marquez giving the slightest of a "challenge" to Pac, come November. I don't care if JMM will lose every round or even gets knocked down or out. As long as he would look better than Mosley, that is already a "sweeeeeeeeeet" accomplishment for my boy, and;

3. I (divac) used to ***** around telling people that Pac "ducked" JMM by fighting Mosley because Pac is shaking at the sight of JMM. Now that it has happened though, I've lost my balls and waiting for me to grow a pair because I've always known that Pac will KTFO JMM and I'm sure to save face when that happens so I'm making all these excuses now. In the mean time, I will ***** around and step up my hate to hide the fact that I f*cked myself up by thinking Pac will never fight JMM again and came out with those hilarious claims that JMM will still school Pac at this age. Better get more PED stories to irritate those f*ckers more.

:deal

 

Hey tat, were you one of those many idiots that predicted Maidano to steamroll through Erik Morales?


.......and so is the boxing mental capacity of a ******* to dicern style matchups!:yep

 

Someone needs to tell EM that he's "SHOT"...and has been since his first lost to PAC. Doesn't he know a "SHOT" fighter isn't suppose to do so well against YOUNG, STRONG champions?:rofl

 

Morales is well past his prime and fighting out of his weight class......but you saw what he could still do against a fighter who's style is suited to his strenghths and skill.

 

Of course he's past his prime...but being past your prime doesn't mean you're SHOT!

A shot fighter couldn't overcome Physical disadvantages no matter how well the style match up works in his favor.

When you are SHOT.....You're SHOT! Meaning you are NOT the same fighter with the same faculites and abilities to operate at a professional level...let alone at a championship level.