Wlad&Haye versus the ATG's (in Boxing News special)

I find Haye ko'ing Dempsey and Marciano laughable!

 

Marciano is literally Haye's worse nightmare.

Fragomeni times 100.

Interesting read though...nice to hear stuff from different perspectives even if I disagree with it.

 

fun read
I dont agree with either of them surviving more then a round with Tyson.
Haye would try and trade with Tyson and that would spell his doom and Tyson woudl finish as soon as he smells blood
Glass Jawed puncher vs Granite chinned puncher.
Wk would be intimidated by Tyson. And that right there means, he aint going to be around for long. I keep thinking of what Tyson did to Golota...and that was a poor, fat, post prison Tyson.
I know WK and Golota arent the same, but i reckon WK has confidence issues and you dont want to go in against Tyson with confidence issues (as well as a bad chin, bad recuperative powers) People keep talking about Wlads jab, but i think hell be too scared to even throw his jab.

Foreman would KO Wlad, just like he did Norton. Haye might last a little longer if he catches Foreman a couple of times, but at the end, Hayes getting KTFO.

Im not going to comment on Johnson because i havent watched much of him.

Frazier might get a little trouble with Hayes power, this match will turn into a streetfight but when Frazier brings the heat, Hayes gonna melt. Wlad might last a little longer boxing from the backfoot, but if Ali couldnt keep away Frazier, how the f*uck is Wlad?

Marciano, could possibly get KOd by Haye. (I know thats gonna hurt a lot of people)
Against Wlad it might be a bit like against Walcottt, Wlad might be outboxing him and ahead on the scorecards until the Rock catches him and catch him he probably will. All it takes with Rock is one punch to end the fight......, and all it takes with Wlad is one punch (on his chin)

Haye is too wild and too open for Louis. Louis might get rocked a few times, but he would time Haye and counter him and KHTFO.
Wlad might pose more of a problem and will probably last longer due to styles, but If/when Louis catches him Wlads going to sleep

Ali schools both of these fools. He might try to take Haye out in the later rounds after Haye is exhausted. Wlad finishes the full 12 with his face covered in blood (Ali mercifully let him survive the 12)

 

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A v.sexy special ed it was IMO.

It was ****ING STUPID for them to pick WALDO Klit to win VS Foreman, they must be having a ****ing giraffe! Foreman KO1 WALDO, he a million times more devestating then a 40 year old Golfer who KTFO his cowardly lion ass in 2! :fire

Oh but WALDO might, MIGHT pull a 'Tokyo Bummy Douglas' on Prime Mikey T. As it say on as a fact on page 92, 'Tyson's flaws were exposed' meaning when Bummy Douglas let it go And whupped his ass in Tokyo. Some of Mikey's many flaws were his flashy overated headmovement what could be timed by a good long jab, like Buster And Lenny did, And teh way he is really a v.very one-demensional stumpy slugger who has no plan B. If he can not get past teh jab with his mythical headmovements, then he is gonna get raped. :yep:deal


Foreman Hooooooooooooooooook!:rasta

 

I don't know which is dafter, picking Haye to stop Marciano or picking Wlad to beat Foreman.

 

You mean when Marciano turns on the heat, Haye is going to melt.

 

I was gonna do this exact same thread.....but I couldnt be arsed in the end

thanks for saving me the trouble McGrain

 

Too many knockouts. There'd be more unanimous decisions than anything else. None of these people fold easily.

 

And now let's be realistic

haye was quite the same size like all of the past fighters, klitschko towers completly everybody except lewis. klitschko is 100% stronger physicaly than everyone besides lewis and foreman, and he has more power than everyone.

Jack Johnson it's difficult to compare, the time frame and the way they fought back then. i can't compare that to today, same goes for dempsey and louis. but dempsey would get smocked bad by both
marcioano is a small light heavy weight by today standards. does anybody really believe he would stand a chance especially against wlad?????:rofl

imo ali would ko haye late, he is similar in size, probably faster then high and higher ring iq. wlad would imo ud or tko ali. he is like a bigger version with 10 times more power

frazier would get smoked by klitschko and haye would ko him too

foreman would ko haye and klitschko. wlad could have success against him, but i think foreman is going to catch wlad early and finisch him

holmes would ko haye late and have a very close fight against wlad, winning or losing

peak tyson would smoke haye and normaly wlad too, wlad would have to be 100% focused and not make a single mistake to win this fight

lewis would take out haye early, but against wlad it's a different story, i see prime wlad of now decisioning lewis pretty clearly

holyfield imo would break wlad down and take him out late and ko haye

and vitali would beat haye and wlad together in 10 rounds

but would struggle with a lot of fighters from the past

 

I stopped reading after that part and then looked at your avatar

 

haye would win none of these matchups, and certainly wouldn't go 7 with Lennox

 

100% true, Haye himself said he has more problems with shorter fighters. Frighting out of a crouch, Marciano would be able to take the edge off Hayes sporadic offence and beat him down to a stoppage in about five or six rounds IMO. Hayes movement looks slick, but he's always off balance and The Rock would destroy him.

Max Baer would destroy Haye ffs.

 

Max Baer was like a small Valuev, no movement and slow hands. Haye would tee off on him

 

:rofl

 

I don't even see that. He looks amateurish.
The one and only thing Haye has going for him is handspeed and power. He's sloppy as hell in every other aspect though.

He needs to improve by about 500% to have a hope against Wlad, IMO.
I think he'll get dismantled simply.

Dempsey and Marciano would have run through him like **** through a goose, I'm sure.