Had he beaten jackson, benn, dm and holyfield i'd have him in my 15. Slightly redeeming is that he beat men who themselves had or would soon go onto beat these.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jrnlXixTgc[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRt8LHSB7wM&feature=related[/ame] anyone is lying to themselves if they think fitz would beat roy.
Do you think jones would be able to handle his power? Or is it that you don't think fitz would catch him? We're talking about I guy who destroyed the "unbeatable" jack dempsey before knocking out james j corbett ( a guy who was able to avoid sullivan's best shots)
12 rounds is roy. 15 is 50/50. Anything over that is Fitz. I don't think it's absurd to favor a three division champion and one of the most proven devastating hitters to ever grace the LH class over Roy. He wasn't a dumb slugger either, Fitz was pretty damn clever at setting traps for his punches and he could set the right bait for anyone, including Jones :deal
someone who's never watched the sport before can look at the footage of fitz and jones and understand who would win. jones stops him in the early to mid rounds. as great as fitz was, he'd have no clue on how to cope with jones.
Someone who's never watched the sport before wouldn't understand a ****ing thing about Fitz or Roy, so i don't know what you're talking about. Not really sure how you're saying a dude that withstood punishment from Heavies would get stopped by Roy either. Ironically fitz's hands down looking for counter opportunities and holes is probably a much closer style to roy's than any opponent jones ever faced....
If you're relying on the opinions of people who've never watched the sport then I don't know what to say to you. Even jeffries couldn't stop fitz in the early rounds and he had a huge weight advantage and is an atg heavyweight.
i just had to post this. sometimes things so simple are hard to understand for a few on the classic boards.
Understand. As in, they watch the footage of them boxing, and don't clearly understand what they're seeing the same way someone who knows their boxing would. I'm not short of reading comprehension so you can keep your snide bull**** to yourself.
I read your post and stand by my reply. Someone who knows nothing about boxing doesn't really have a valid opinion and I have no idea how you think you made a valid point?
my point is that you don't need to know anything about the sport to see that jones would beat fitz. both lufcrazy and swarmer have some good posts on here but i can't disagree more with them on this topic.
They'd make him fight at their pace. Eventually they get him. Just take the guys from the 80's. A cute fighter like Mustafa Muhummad could turn him inside out. Just take the Against the better light heavy's Jones' only advantage is speed. Spinks knocks him dead. Braxton & Saad wear him out.
I think Jones doesn't get hit and stops Fitz earlyish if he feels like it, too much speed and skill for Fitz who's technique is primitive. All sports have progressed since 1900 bar none, Fitz dominated boxing when it was a fledgling sport with a small talent pool. Also bare in mind Fitz used tiny gloves, its allot easier to KO opponents with those gloves I doubt you'd pick the 1930 World Cup winners over Barcelona of last night either [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RqlyrXZ4KM[/ame] The fact he didn't get ko'd in the early rounds means little when you consider these were scheduled for 30rounds, Fitz wasn't getting hit early and fought at a much slower pace. This is the Jeffries who had his punches mocked and laughed at by Jack Johnson Well if you do know the sport you can see the obvious technical limitations and weaknesses of Fitz's style. Just because he fought HWs, read cruserweights, that had a tiny talent pool, in a fledgling era with primitive skills, doesn't mean he's taken punches from anywhere nearly as accurate and powerful as Jones. For the record Jones took punnishment from a HW himself. Fitz trying to play Jones game as a low handed counter puncher, with his massive speed disadvantage is just going to see him get knocked out as he will be so easy to hit. Especially as he's commiting the cardinal sin of leaning back to avoid punches This doesn't really have much to do with 'how good Jones is' rather how much the sport has progressed and become far more competitive
I don't think jones has ever been in with anyone who can hit nearly as hard fitz could. Fitz can knock him out to the chin, gut or solar plexus. The shorter the fight the more you'd favour that jones could keep away. Jones can't knock fitz out. It's a question of can fitz catch him. I think the longer the fight, the greater chance fitz has. Over 15 rounds I favour fitz.