Who ranks higher: Leonard or Duran?

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On the ATG list?
     
  2. Swarmer

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  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I used to think Leonard, but I've changed it to Duran, but it's possible I may change it again, but not likely
     
  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Leonard beat ATG fighters and Duran did not. Duran only beat Ray who was ATG and Ray reversed that two times. Duran had a longer career and a legendary career, but if the key is who showed higher levels of skill Leonard beats Duran out and think easily.
     
  5. the cobra

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  6. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm just curious but is there another fighter with more significant, ATG wins than Leonard? Duran, Hearns, Hagler and Benitez? And all of them were pretty much at their peak outside of Hagler.
     
  7. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Very few.

    Ezzard Charles is 6-0 against Archie Moore, Charley Burley, and Joe Louis, all of whom can be argued among the top 20 of all time, Louis the only one not in his prime.

    There's a whole issue of newspaper decisions and all that, but Sam Langford's resume is filled with ATG's from Lightweight to Heavy: Joe Gans, Stanley Ketchel, Harry Wills, Joe Jeanette, etc.

    Pretty much the same goes for Greb. Tunney, Walker, Loughran, Gibbons, etc.


    There's a couple more, but yeah, Leonard's top wins are among the greatest ever.
     
  8. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Leonard IMO. He has the most efficient resume of all time.
     
  9. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ATG's they fought: SRL, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Benitez

    Sugar Ray Leonard: 5 - 1 - 1

    Roberto Duran: 1 - 5 - 0

    Losses:

    Sugar Ray Leonard: Duran, Camacho, Norris

    Roberto Duran: De Jesus, Leonard x2, Benitez, Laing?, Hagler, Hearns, Sims?, Lawlor?, Pazienza x2, Camacho x2, Castro?, Joppy, Gonzalez?

    Mentions in non-said fighter-specific threads:

    Sugar Ray Leonard: 0.4/10

    Roberto Duran: 9.6/10




    make of it what you will
     
  10. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Leonard for me. He beat better fighters than Duran did, and more importantly, he showed strong character in his losses. Duran didn't.
     
  11. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Surely Duran deserves a mention though?
     
  12. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    why? that is the truth. Leonard beat ATG fighters numerous times and Duran did not. The question is who ranks higher? If you don't like to discuss the actual criteria, why even comment or post?
     
  13. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: yes he does
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    Leonard showed glimpses of greatness but he didn't have a great career. He was on the top for what? 3 years or so? From beating benitez till his eye injury he was great but it didn't last long enough... He then had a victory over hagler but did fuk all after it.

    Duran is the best lightweight in history and had some great performances above his prime weight also.

    Less knowledgeable people usually pick leonard. But digging deeper it is apparent that duran is greater.
     
  15. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean can't one argue that Leonard's win over Hearns, Duran and Hagler are 3 of the top 30-40 wins in boxing history? Maybe even higher?