How can anybody say Floyd never wanted Pacquiao Warning common sense here

I think it was the Cotto fight which began changing Floyd's attitude towards a Pacquiao fight. I mean, it was after this that the accusations of cheating began getting serious. At that point, Floyd was wanting to have Pacquiao distracted for when they would fight. Then after the Margarito fight, Floyd must have thought "**** this. It's really not worth me coming back and risking it against him."

 

You used to be one of the biggest Mayweather haters ever, WTF happened? BTW I agree with most of what you say.

 

No. Floyd's comeback against JMM was announced on Saturday May 2nd, hours before Pacquiao and Hatton were due to step in the ring. It was his attempt at taking the limelight away from Pac. Little did he realize the world would forget all about Mayweather as they watched in awe as Pacquiao almost kills Hatton.

 

After Floyd beat Mosley down he had Pac camp thinking twice look at Freddie Roach interviews before that fight and after he slow down the rants about Floyd is weak etc and said Shane was old....

 

good point...us debating it now proves everybody has lost intrest in this fight....lmao, the fight has grown in popularity in past few years. I hear more casual fans talking bout this fight then any other in past 10 years.

 

I already gave my explanation earlier. I think Floyd was obviously shocked at and didn't expect Manny to do to Hatton and Cotto what he did. HENCE the PED allegations. When he came out of retirement to fight Marquez, there was NO drug testing demand, NO mention in steroids of any fighter INCLUDING Pac until after the Hatton fight, when he picked up Senior's warcry. So to save face and detract from the other guy, the Mayweathers go on a personal slander campaign. They never really had any intentions of fighting Manny after seeing his Domination at 147 and resorted to slander and used the negotiations as a way of saving face.

 

**** the inconsistencies . . . like I said that's all in the media.

Somebody from Team Mayflower should sit down with TR and have everything written down and signed by both fighters. There can never be a contract without formal negotiation. There can never be a negotiation if Mayflower won't get out of vacation. :deal

If there's contract we will see who's lieing and telling the truth.

 

Calling him Mayflower is super corny :roll:

 

No he hasn't. He came back for the Mosley fight remember. He continued bad-mouthing Pac after that, whilst claiming no negotiations took place with TR. Then after Pac rearranged Margarito's face (the 2nd opponent that Mayweather refused to face, who Pac would destroy), he went completely silent.

So to summarise, over the course of 18 or so months Floyd's thought process went like this:

- That midget ain't got **** on me. I'll reclaim my P4P crown from him when I come back.
- ****, that mother****er be doing some damage. I better take a warm-up before fighting him.
- I can't be fighting that fool as he is. That mother****er's a beast. I'mma distract him with some drug testing ****.
- **** it. Ain't no point me coming back. Steroids or no steroids, he ain't worth risking my O. I'mma stay where I am, and be happy with my health and what I've done.

 

There are faults on both sides but the one thing that kills me about the negotiations were that Floyd made the fight 50/50 split. He gave a humongous concession on weight with a ten million dollar penalty for every pound he came in over weight. Two other concessions, gloves and ring entrance I think, but as soon as floyd makes one demand that they both would have to do the fight is off. Im no rocket scientist but the excuses after that about being afraid of needles but sports tatoos and it makes him feel week foe ten days after is ludicrous. Roach doesnt want PAC to go into any fight were he doesnt have the advantage.


Examples

Marquez at 144
Delahoya at 147
Cotto at 145
Mosley after Floyd and Mora showed he was shot


I also thought Floyd looked bad after he claimed no negotiations took place and was confirmed to be lying. So whom couldve made this a mute point PAC and Floyd with a lawyer for both and no Bob Arum involved. Lets be honest Floyd was the bigger draw and would do the most to sell the fight anyway e.g. talking trash, raving insults and making funny comments. PAC selling points would be hes bigger than me and this will be a good fight.

 

Come on man, REAL TALK here. If we are being honest, BOTH sides are responsible. Manny is a sheep to Arum, Arum is a **** with a personable vendetta against FLoyd and doesn't really want to make the fight either, and this is Floyd's second hiatus in the last four years when taking a fight would mean risking his "0". That's just how it is. Remember that Floyd walked away in the past from a rematch with Oscar that, regardless of how shitty we as fans would think that might be, would have made him plenty of $$$. So it's not always about the money for Floyd. Matter of fact I think he only really came back in the first place to have a few fights and get out of IRS troubles.

Also, it's easy to call out a guy and make it look like you're serious about negotiations when in reality you're not. My boy Bradley just did it against Khan.