is lennox lewis one of the greats?

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  1. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    he is great, but his size gave him an advantage which gets him rated lower in my mind. Had he been the same size as everyone else he fought with his chin, he would not have been so great. But his right hand with his size was one of the best.
     
  2. cuchulain

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    Ali
    Louis
    Lewis/Foreman

    Marciano/Holmes

    Liston
    Tyson
    Frazier
    Patterson
     
  3. Joe E

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    :huh
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Problems with my top 10, Joe ?
     
  5. quarry

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    Ruddock was damaged goods after two brutal beatings from Tyson getting his jaw, cheek-bone & eye-socket smashed. Ruddock never landed a single punch in the fight with Lewis with Lewis and his camp knowing he was Shot`...

    you have it wrong about Bowe. it was Lewis who ducked Bowe or are you claiming Bowe is lying in this interview?
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eins2DhSo"]YouTube - So Much to Talk About: Riddick Bowe (June 2009)-Pt. 4 of 5[/ame]
     
  6. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Son...just stop.

    Do we really need to get into what fighter beat and lost to who before fighting respective former greats? Show some objectivity for a change.

    That interview is from YEARS later by a biased player in a fight that NEVER happened.

    Bottom line.....Bowe, Lewis, Ruddock and Holyfield agreed to their mutual fights with the winners facing off.Bowe's camp lowballed a 90/10 offer to try and get out of it and than trashed the belt. Go ahead and post your crappy links from two years later, but Bowe DUCKED this fight!
     
  7. Joe E

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    With #3 yes.
     
  8. quarry

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    DOUBLE STANDARDS AGAIN.. it's wrong to point out a fighters previous fights or his condition on fight night to you when your back is against the wall. yet only 2 days ago in another thread you done just what your asking me not to do... here it is to remind you.
    "do you care to touch on his heavyweight credentials? Lol, it shouldn't take you long. Carpentier.....another light heavyweight fight. Madden....Lost to nearly every top fighter he faced. Risko...had lost 3 straight and 4 of 6 before fighting Tunney. O'Dowd.....a career record of 15-19 and was 15-18 when he faced Tunney. Burke....Lost to most of the top names. Spalla...beat nobody of note before fighting Tunney. Jamieson.....Was a light heavyweight fight and ARE YOU SERIOUS? Smith.....Are you talking about Sgt. Ray Smith who was 5-14 and ko'd 11 times? Lmao!! Loughran.....was fought at light heavy. Levinski.....was for the American light heavyweight championship." DOUBLE STANDARDS BY A HATE MONGER :lol:

    Your Hate now continues against Riddick Bowe claiming him to be "Biased" which is better than what you called him last time you responded to this video with you calling him a "Punch-Drunk Liar"..... yet why would Bowe tell lies? Do you have a video of Lewis contradicting what Bowe claims?

    Your `Bottom-Line Theory`cannot be further from the truth. Bowe was THE Heavyweight Champion of the World The Man who beat The Man and nobody tells someone in that position what to do especially Lewis who wanted a 50/50 purse split and options on Bowe should he lose :lol: let me suggest to you that the truthful bottom line is just how Riddick Bowe tells it.
     
  9. crippet

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    Really???
    Did you see Bowe V Golota???
    or Foreman V Morrison
    or Moorer V Tua

    and if the 40 plus's Holmes and Foreman are included, then Tyson and Holyfield should be major wins on Lewis' resume.

    I would pick the Holyfield, Lewis beat to beat the Holmes or Foreman that Holyfield or Tyson beat.
     
  10. quarry

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    Bowe beat Golota 2-0
    Foreman never had the legs to beat Morrison
    Moorer was shot against Tua
     
  11. Threetime no1

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    Holyfield the same cruiser who is recognised as an ATG heavy, the same cruiser who gave Bowe his three biggest fights and floored him, and then beatdown Tyson. The same Holyfield who was the no1 in the world when he fought Lewis, and at the same time apart from a couple of rounds in the second fight, could'nt do FA with Lewis.
    This is the negative way of judging a man's career.


    No he wouldn't because he didn't have the power to do that to Lewis. Which i think was proven in the rematch.
     
  12. quarry

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    42 of 49 ringside reporters had the fight for Holyfield, i had it 7-5 Holyfield
     
  13. Threetime no1

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    :dealI've noticed it for ages with him. It seems i only see him on threads about Lewis, waxing lyrical on why he isn't a great fighter. At the same time he always drops Wlad's name in there.
    I reckon his thinking is that if he mentions Wlad in the same vain as Lewis enough, then everyone else might start to believe he is has good. Which no matter what way you look at it, he simply isn't.
    If your reading this unforgiven, which fighter other than Wlad do you like? Just asking because i can't remember seeing you on other threads, apart from Lewis ones. I ain't the type to check other peoples history, so i can't be arsed going down that route to find out.
     
  14. Threetime no1

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    Were those 49 Americans? I ain't ever heard that like, but i'm sure you will now post a link as proof. Well you don't have to bother yourself, because some biased US article won't make a difference to me.
    I give him four rounds at best, between 6-10 if i remember right.
    Thinking about it quarry, your another one i see a lot on Lewis threads discrediting the man to anyone who will listen. Everyone to their own, but don't try and tell me Holy beat Lennox in that second fight, he fought better than the first, but no way did he win. That's just BS.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    :lol:

    No, I don't particularly like Wladimir Klitschko. I'm no fan of Wlad at all, but I have to admit that he deserves some credit now - just as Lewis deserves some credit.
    I think it's hilarious that I can be mistaken for a Klitschko fan.
    Funny thing is, Lewis wasn't rated any higher than Wlad is now - when he was still fighting.

    People have called me a "Lewis hater" a "Tyson hater" a "Dempsey fanboy" .... now I'm being mistaken for a "Klit-hugger" .... I think someone accused me of hating Ali once too - and Liston !
    Oh, and some say a "Holyfield fanboy" ....... and I've even been accused of only favouring "old time fighters" and hating "mainstream fighters".
    I'm confused by it all - it will give me an identity crisis !

    :rofl

    Sorry, I just don't rate Lewis very highly in the ALL TIME ratings. I rate him the same I rated him 10 years ago. I don't bow to this new trend of calling him a top 5 HW ever !

    :good