I analyse the status of all fighters not just European. This is the first tribute thread, others in line could well be Chris John, W Wright, K Pavlik and J Lacy along with E Morales, M A Barrera and J M Marquez
Alot of fighters never fight outside there home country as champs, just look at Hopkins and Jones as champs,
Home fighter like many champs maybe, but hometown fighter is worse. Ottke was champ, who should he travel for? Did Jones or Hopkins defend outside of America? No
I never thought anyone would be stupid enough to put the words Sven Ottke and ATG in the same sentence You're an idiot, **** off you know nothing about boxing *****
Look shitman fan, how many defences did Hatton make. Ottke made 21 Did Ottke ever take a check hook? No. Now you go watch illegal brawlers and I will watch ATGs who can use boxing when they cant over power an opponent Look at who Ottke with feather fists beat This content is protected the then IBF SMW champ for the title, beaten twice This content is protected who went on to become the Ring & IBF LHW champ This content is protected who went on to become the WBA LHW champ This content is protected who went on to become the 2 time WBA SMW champ This content is protected the then WBA SMW champ and 2 time WBA champ This content is protected the former WBC SMW champ and still world class This content is protected the former WBO MW champ (a smaller fighter) This content is protected world class who went on to become European champ This content is protected world class who went on to become European champ This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected
I haven't seen one decent unbiased post from you, bailey. Ever. You defend "your" fighters (Froch, Ottke...) up to the point at which nobody is willing to discuss the matter any further because of the exhausting and stubborn way you tend to discuss things. I have no idea how you Brits manage to be **** posters bar none but to be honest, I probably don't wanna find out anyway.
What a typically racist attitude atsch. Shameful, but atleast your true colours are coming through. Show me where I have been bias. I note facts and facts arent bias they are how things are, maybe you are just listening to people whispering in your ear
I am white, I am German und have Hopkins as my avatar. Hope you're alright with that. Naw man, what you do is twist "facts" in your favor while neglecting points contradicting your line of argument. I did a CTRL+F "Reid" on your opening post and found nothing stating that the fight was a blatant robbery. Furthermore I remember you stating Ward's win over Kessler being overrated because of Kessler's impaired vision (a diagnosis published after the Froch fight!) but when I told you allegedly handicapped Kessler did well against Froch you claimed Froch lost because of some excessive travelling or something...? Don't act like you base your argument on facts because you don't. You're a hypocrite like Jack and the likes and biased as **** on top of that.
JESUS CHRIST! A champ hmm maybe not? But an ATG should defently fight outside his home country atleast 4 time! And Ottke has never done that = OTTKE NEVER AN ATG. BTW robberys dont give him any plus either.