Ottkes trainer admitted Sven did want to know. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3163285.stm http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=339&more=1 :deal Calzaghe was happy to go to Germany, but lets stop all of this, this is Ottkes time
I have shown you 2 posts that say different, but this thread isnt about your grief for Kessler losing to Calzaghe. This is an Ottke tribute, so take your hate for another fighter off of here :hi:
stop upping your threads. why not just quote all the posts you want to respond to in ONE thread? or is that past your mental capacity?
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I dont do that anymore as some complained that the posts were to long and wanted individual attention. Someone like yourself would have trouble understanding and being able to read through, so I have made it easier for simpletons like yourself. You can thank me in a private PM later :good
If you haven't noticed I'm doing my very best to up Ottke's acomplishments by pointing out that Calzaghe for 3 years didn't want to face the best SMW on the planet. The fact that you are posting some links with press releases by Frank War ren a fair time after this period shows nothing other than you don't like to hear when somebody ups the fighter your thread praises, at the expense of your precious Joe Blow. PS: I never once mentioned Kessler as he has no business in an Ottke thread, but if you choose to make a Calzaghe thread I'll make sure to point out that Kessler is Joe's best win even though Kessler fought with a broken hand.
Let me know if you want to turn your Ottke thread into a Calzaghe thread. Untill then you should just endorse the facts I presented you with.
This is an Ottke thread, not a Calzaghe one, so you shouldnt try and make it one. The Calzaghe ATG and Kessler ATG threads are in production and you can post on those 2 in the respected threads. All sensible comments appreciated
Then stop defending Calzaghe and up Ottke instead. Forget your Calzaghe luv untill a proper thread is made.
you should consider investing in a dictionary & looking up the word "fact" cos you clearly don't know what it means.
Endorse Ottke's greatness. Hater. :hand Facts are that Saurland for 3 years tried to make Calzaghe fight the best SMW but Calzaghe didnt want none.
How about Bute? I see you only mentioned AMERICANS. It's also biased to fault Americans for not fighting outside of their home country and not guys like Ottke or Bute. No disrespect to either fighter but I'm just saying it's biased IF you only fault Americans and not fighters fighting from other countries. Personally I feel the champ has a right to fight where they want even if it's a home just as long as they face good competition. Still when you have multiple legitimate champs it's hard to say where they should fight. Another reason why I hate multiple belts. As far as being an ATG, I don't know about that because of the lack of worthy opposition. I'm even skeptical with considering Calzaghe an ATG but he had his step ups against Kessler, Reid, and Lacy but that may not be enough especially considering that he got a questionable decision against Hopkins and went out beating a fossil in Jones instead of the younger Dawson who he could've destroyed. Ottke/Calzaghe should've happened no doubt though I feel Calzaghe would outwork him. It is said that Ottke will most likely be remembered for getting that gift in the Reid fight but he was a good fighter regardless. I haven't got the chance to see much of him on yt but there is some of Erdei & Dariusz that I will go through soon. :good I look forward to Erdei & Dariusz threads from you.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTX6gW331M[/ame] One of the worst decisions ive ever seen and certainly the worst ref ive ever seen in all my years as a boxing fan. sven ottkes IBF reign and his unbeaten record are two of the biggest jokes in the last 20 years of boxing. Many boxers get the odd dodgy decision here & there but with ottke it was all the time. If there was any justice in boxing ottke would have lost half his fights, & not only that he was **** to watch too.
facts are that ****** offered ottke £1m to fight in germany or wales & ottke turned it down to fight robin reid who calzaghe had beat 5 years before...& sauerland paid off the refs & judges in that fight resulting in one of the most disgraceful roberies of all time. please note: actual "facts". not your variation on that word.