Lennox undisputed Title resume - your thoughts

Didn't look like anything more than a good punch. I don't see Lewis grimacing immediately after, on his way to his corner or while he's sitting down.

Two things about you being there......first...big deal. Second.....how could you allegedly see Lewis "grimacing in pain" in his corner? He had 3 corner men around him and the ringside doctor. Are you trying to say this didn't impede you vision? I've sat ringside for many fights and it is very difficult to see a fighter clearly when he is surrounded like that. Do you disagree?

 

The words of a man who doesn't box heavyweights for a living.

A "good punch" to the body in heavyweight boxing will bring tremendous pain. Very few heavyweights in history could brush that off. Even some great ones may have grimaced for a moment after.
I couldn't really see that punch land on the TV, but I heard it through the microphones - and the ringside commentator made a thing of it too.

 

Nope, don't box heavyweights for a living. But I have been in the ring with them. That said, I would be much obliged if you or anyone else could point out exactly when Lewis was grimacing in pain. My point here is that quarry lies and exaggerates to make points against Lewis.

 

I wasn't there, and the cameras aren't on Lewis's face at all times. Therefore I have no idea, nothing to base an opinion on either way.
If quarry lies and exaggerates you need to find a better example to show it.

 

Look at Lewis' face the moment after he gets hit. He certainly doesn't look like a hurt fighter then, walking to his corner or sitting down and that is certainly something to base an opinion on. It directly contradicts what he says. On top of that anybody who has sat ringside for a fight will tell you it is difficult to see a fighter face, much less his expression, between rounds with corner men a the doctor all in the way. The camera provides a clear angle.

 

I snipped a lot of other good stuff here, just to add that Akinwande was still the WBA's #1 all the way up near the end of...February 2000, I think it was.

You couldn't have sold a ticket for Lewis-Akinwande II for love nor money. No wonder Grant looked more appealing, and indeed a few people think King got Akinwande (then Ruiz) into that position exactly for the reason of annexing the belt and getting his own little bit to claim instead.

But even with the April date never on the cards, July was still offered up. King rejected it as he thought he could get the court to work for him without any pesky actual fighting needed, and it worked.

As for Moorer in a '94 unification fight, whole weird situation there. Moorer's few months as champion then consisted of him keeping a low profile then claiming he just wanted to quit and walk away from the sport anyway, before kind of backing into the Foreman fight out of little more than "Hey, I can make good money here and I'm sure I'm better than Tommy Morrison". I vaguely think that any chance of a fight with Lewis got nixed unless he was willing to switch networks, too.

Could've had Moorer-Lewis in '97, but Moorer went for Holyfield. Made sense, his previous win as a leverage point and Holy's popularity being at its peak.

 

That was a pretty good bodyshot by Mcall. Lewis definitely looked to hold on after it.

 

Yes, that's what I thought.

 

Lefthook clutching at straws to discredit Lewis??? What an absurd notion.

You do a search, I'm sure you won't find hundreds upon hundreds of threads with Lefthook getting increasingly more ridiculous in bizarre different ways downplaying everything Lennox Lewis has ever done.

I'm sure you won't find dozens upon dozens of posters who havent already noticed and pointed it out to him.

Next you'll be telling us the sky is blue!

 

:dealYou know what mate, that is the top and bottom of it and i suppose the point i have been trying to make with quarry. Good post.

 

Yeah because your someone who knows the intricacies of boxing. The general public for the most part don't. You can't hold it against Lewis just because he didn't satisfy your thirst of seeing him in with x amount of different styles.

 

I dont hold it against Lewis at all but I also dont think he took the tougher challenges like so many on here claim. Its not just about big and strong.

 

Like i said to quarry apart from Byrd and Ruiz who else didn't he face.
The common consensus regarding Bowe is that he ducked Lewis. Even if Lewis haters don't believe that, in their heart of hearts that can't honestly believe it was all Lewis' fault it never happened! So no complaint with Lewis there.
Then you have Moorer who Lewis immediatley called out in '94 after Micheal beat Holyfield. This is because Lennox was desperate to prove his worth to the US public. That fight never came close to happening. Not Lewis' fault.
You have Holyfield who was ranked the no1 when he faced Lewis and wasn't as shot as people say. Passed his peak yes but not by much. The world wanted the fight for 2 years. Evander said he owed it to Lennox to fight him,because Bowe, Moorer and Tyson chose to fight him instead of Lewis. Whether because of money or because they thought Evander was the lesser man. Evanders words.
Tyson was bad timing, but that isn't Lewis fault either. You said yourself that Tyson did'nt feel he was ready for Lennox in '96. So chose Holy.
So then you have Byrd and Ruiz, who yes he could have fought but did'nt, because let's face it who wanted to see those fights anyway over the likes of Tua and Grant at the time. When the Byrd fight was mooted you had Tyson and Klitschko going in against a semi-retired Lewis. So saying he ducked them two is a bit harsh.
So what challenges did he not face that he could of? I honestly can't think of any.
I understand your view has a purist, but he can't keep everyone happy.

 

You say your a fan, a very peculiar fan if you ask me. The way i see it is he didn't pass any oppurtunities up. Other than a Vitali rematch, which he was well within his rights to do. Has for saying he is a top 3 ATG, well that's another discussion. I don't think he is, but h2h i'd pick him over anyone at his best.