Zab Judah has no shot versus Amir Khan

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  1. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Michiganwarrior, I think for only the 2nd time ever, I agree with you completely.
     
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  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    I dont judge fighters based on wins over C level competition. A fight Judah was also struggling in until he caught Mabuza coming in. I go off fights against elite. And Judah is awful when he steps up in class. His lone when at this level is against Cory Spinks. Losses toTszyu, Baldomir, Mayweather, Cotto, Clottey, and none of them was that close. Might have lost against Matthysse aswell.


    Lets review. You go off a KO over Mabuza. I go off of getting beaten up when fighting world champions.

    Again last elite fighter Zab KO'd?
     
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  3. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IMO Judah is more dangerous than Bradley for Khan. Judah has the speed and skills to land a punchers chance on Khan. IMO Bradley doesnt really offer anything, Khan will outbox him from the outside, use his speed and if Bradley does land, it wouldnt be the end.
     
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  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Umm no. Maidana would whip Judah's ass right now.
     
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  5. SportsLeader

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    Have you seen Khan vs McCloskey? Khan looked sloppy as hell. He threw strictly straight shots, moved only in straight lines, and looked like he could be countered at every opportunity, it's just a shame that McCloskey was too negative to capitalise on these opportunities. Khan looked very much like he could be caught coming in, and against a guy who can counterpunch hard like Judah, that's going to be an issue.

    I think that Judah's power is very real. Spinks, Mabuza and Rivera aren't exactly Hagler, Hearns, and Leonard, but the shots Judah caught them with to put them away were all very hard and very well timed. You could argue that all 3 have a better chin than Khan, so there is no reason to believe that if Judah connected on Khan with a similar shot, which is quite possible due to Khans somewhat reckless offense and predictable defense, then he could put Khan away too. I don't think it's even debateable that Judah has enough power to knock Khan out.

    Maidana and Judah are 2 different animals. Maidana is an innacurate clubber, he chases you, doesn't wait to counter, he just throws bombs which if connect will KO his opponents, but they are so innacurate they rarely do (See Morales fight). Judah is much more accurate, faster, and uses angles better. He'll catch Khan coming in which will do much more damage than Maidana clipping him on the back foot with his thudders. Judah's shots will be much more dangerous, the shots you don't see always are.
     
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  6. HAYEDAJOKE

    HAYEDAJOKE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do u watch boxing, your a ****ing hater.

    only a ****ing ****** would make this thread

    repeat only a ****ing ****** would make this thread
     
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  7. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not saying I agree with you, but what the hell does that have to do with what I just said?

    Judah has ONE punch knockouts at 140.

    He is a HARD and ACCURATE puncher.
     
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  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Nonsense. Bradley has speed, heart and intelligence.


    Zab Judah has speed, dumb as a stump, and hates to get into a scrap.


    Remember what Roger Mayweather said in the Mayweather fight?

    He said Zab Judah will give up when you put pressure on him, that he doesnt like to fight. And its true.


    If Zab Judah had been hit with the same shot Bradley was hit with against Holt, he would have quit.


    When Tszyu, Baldomir, Mayweather, Cotto and Clottey didnt wilt after the first couple rounds, he went into his usual shell. Where he back pedals, and looks to land one shot and he got beaten up in everyone of those fights, except the Tszyu fight where he was just knocked out.


    Khan is the most skilled fighter at 140. He has power. He has length. Honestly this fight is going to be **** once the first 4 rounds are over and Judah is constantly retreating looking to land one shot.


    AGain Judah's been down in his last 2 fights. And may have lost to Matthysse. He's good at knocking out C level contenders. Thats it.
     
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  9. MichiganWarrior

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    Name the last non contender level fighter Judah KO'd. I'll wait.
     
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  10. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree completely. Solid post.
     
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  11. northbakbren

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    I think khan actually proved against maidana that his punch reistence has improved, he'd had been ko'd in that fight 2 years ago.

    Pitty its judah, but think khans speed will win him this one.
     
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  12. MichiganWarrior

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    Yes. McCloskey was there to just survive. Khan won every round. Judah is poorer defensively then McCloskey.

    He's a one punch fighter. That doesnt win at the elite level.

    Yeah. One has heart, determination, a win over an elite opponent in the last 5 years, and the ability to throw more then one punch at a time. And the other is Zab Judah.
     
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  13. HENDO

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    Margarito is a contendor level fighter and so is Angulo. If someone knocked them out, you wouldn't be surprised?

    I don't give a damn how "elite" in your opinion Khan is, he still has chin issues and Judah has the accuracy and power to take advantage of this and potentially finish him.
     
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  14. MichiganWarrior

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    Again whats laughable is that Zab Judah has about as poor a chin as Khan if not worse.
     
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  15. MichiganWarrior

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    Margarito and Argulo are champion level fighters.

    Judah has chin issues. infact Judah has been knocked down in his last 2 fights.



    Name the last non-contender level fighter Judah has KO'd.
     
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