The best version of Wladimir Klitschko vs best versions of Lewis and Bowe?

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  1. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Wlad takes Riddick much easier than ppl think.

    Wlad vs. Lewis would be difficult, but if I had money to wager I'd put it on Wlad.

    Wlad has been rocked and always gets up. If Wlad did get in trouble he would hold on.

    However, if Wlad hit either one of them with a Calvin Brock, Eddie Chambers, Charles Shufford shot both are going down.

    People need to realize Wlad can hit like a mule and it takes one shot and LL is out.

    If McCall (who isn't really a big puncher in the grand scheme of things) can lay-out Lennox. Wlad will and can.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Since you actually spared with all three of them, I give your opinion more weight than most others, and appreciate your contributions to the thread.

    I too think Lewis would have an edge, mostly mental but that's extremely important, where as I have a harder time knowing how Bowe would do. I suspect that Wlad has the tools to beat either, but could likely use them more effectively against Bowe.


     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not a big fan of using a punch that Lewis never saw as "proof" that others who could punch, could land the same unseen punch. If that were the case, presumably every puncher he fought could have KO'd him, and that simply never happened. More likely is that Lewis pressures Wlad early and gets him out of his comfort zone as soon as possible and uses his agression combined with his superior inside fighting skills to get Wlad out of there rather quickly. At least I would suspect that would be the plan going into the fight.


     
  4. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Hurt feelings from what exactly? No, just rolling my eyes at you. Not your subject matter or picks, but mostly the remarkably smug condescension in the plainly stated agenda of it. It was eye-roll inducing. Well done. It lets people know you don't even want a serious discussion and not to waste their time.
     
  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :D You should be happy....He is here trying to educate the masses :patsch!!!
     
  6. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Wlad would brutally destroy Bowe, way worse than Golota did those times
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you explain this statement and this list? How can Lewis rank below both when he's accomplished as much or more and has a tko win over Vitaly?

    1/. Muhammad Ali
    2/. Joe Frazier
    3/. George Foreman
    4/. Evander Holyfield
    5/. Mike Tyson
    6/. Riddick Bowe
    7/. Buster Douglas
    8/. Larry Holmes
    9/. Michael Spinks
    10/. Wlad Klitschko
    11/. Ken Norton
    12/. Vitali Klitschko
    13/. Lennox Lewis
    14/. John Ruiz
    15/. Ernie Terrell
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't normally do this. I am not sure whos list this is???? But it is one of the worst I have ever seen!
     
  9. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :dealYeah i think you've hit the nail on the head regarding Lewis' punch resistance, and on how a fight with Wlad would go for him.
     
  10. Kittikasem

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    I think a lot of people underestimate the fear factor. It's clear that Wladimir is very accomplished and destructive when he is in control, enjoying size advantages, or against lesser opponents. But it's also clear that Wladimir becomes terrified whenever a big, aggressive opponent attacks him, and even more terrified when he gets hit and gets hurt. Both Bowe and Lewis would have him fleeing in terror like a crowd of Japanese people scattering from Godzilla.
     
  11. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bowe got hit too much to fight Vlad, I think he would get busted up and stopped. Bowe had a light resume and Evander with heart problems and troubled stamina gave him hell in 3 fights and we know what Golota to him. I think Vlad breaks him down and stops a beaten Bowe about the 10th rd. As far as Lennox anything could happen with a puncher but I favor Lennox at this point in time. Vlad has the one punch power to take Lennox out like McCall and Rahman did but I think Lennox had that dangerous early power from 1to 8 rds and this is the problem spot for Vlad. Lennox was much more fluid while Vlad a bit stiff and Lewis knew how to take advantage with his strong offensive arsenal, however if Vlad makes it past the 7-8th rd his chances to stop Lewis would increase. Lennox never stopped a man after the 8th and Vlad has many stops after 8
     
  12. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As you have seen, i stated from the start my intentions with this thread. So what! If you don't like it don't come into the thread. Simple!
    Like i said it amuses me, just like you have. Why not try and disprove the fact that Wlad wouldn't really have a chance against Lewis and Bowe. Rather than just rolling your eyes like a twat.
     
  13. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal.I think they underestimate it too. Has good has Wlad is technically and his offense is good too...when he gets around to using it properly. I class him as a front runner, and a guy who doesn't like coming out of his comfort zone. But you know in against Lewis and Bowe he would have to. That is when his fearful demons would rear they ugly head, and that is why he could never beat these men. IMO

    You make some fair points here regarding both fights. But it is harsh using the Bowe who fought Golota as one of your examples. That Riddick was finished and Golota is a tougher fighter than Wlad to boot. Not better but tougher! Even when Bowe got through to Golota on occasions, would Wlad come through it if even that version of Bowe got to him. I can't see it. I did say the best versions as to keep it simple.
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree but it is also not hard to imagine what happens to Lewis when he gets hit and Wlad hits hard and from long range . I consider Lewis as better but by a small margin and I am not even totally certain about it.
    I think Bowe was more suited to beat Wlad than Lewis was but what happens to him if he gets constantly hit by Wladimir's long range shots ?
     
  15. McGrain

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    Not really. Not any more. Classic is as horrible as it's been since I joined. Agenda, sniping, a lot of "humour", the place is riddled with trolls and "look at me" type posters.

    Most of all if you want to BURY your thread, post boxing footage in it. 2-6 replies would be about average I think. I can count the guys who actually watch lots of boxing who post here on my fingers and toes I bet. It's a real shame because this wasn't always the case.

    At least people watch the fights/footage that get linked in General.