Zab Judah has no shot versus Amir Khan

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  1. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    How are you not getting this? Weak chin + Susceptibility to overcommit, be countered and back off in straight lines going up against good timing, accuracy and knockout power = Possibility of getting knockout out. What Judah has done in his career is completely irrelevant. Judah has a more than reasonable chance. How can you not see this? Khan can be timed, he can be countered, and he can be knocked out. Judah has good timing, can counter punch and has KO power. It's as simple as that. Khan should win but Zab has every chance.
     
  2. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Huh ? Average fighter don't become three time world champion, and champion in two weight devisions. True Zab is a head case, but make no mistake, his skills and physical talents are world class.. Zab's immaturity in the past did not allow him to take advantage of his god given talents.

    As far as physical talent goes zab is on par if not exceed Khan in this area, whether or he brings his mental game to take the fight is another issue. Khan on the other hand has not shown me that he can adjust, so far he's been in with fighter that don't poses that skill set.. Khan answer for beating any fighter so far is speed and power, lets see what khan does when his opponent is on par with his speed and is a south paw.
     
  3. Kayo-Kid

    Kayo-Kid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thnx for answering man :good
     
  4. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dude....

    - Baldomir didn't have a weak chin like Khan.
    - Matthysse didn't have a weak chin like Khan.
    - Khan is not Floyd Mayweather.

    Now I know all I have to counter your arguement, is to continously harp on about Khan's chin. But it's Khan's major weakness - one that eventually has a knock-on effect on other areas of his game. I mean look at the Maidana fight. He looked like a million dollars when he wasn't hurt, but the moment he felt his power, he began to crumble. So like I said, if Khan wasn't as disadvantaged as he was in this department, I'd completely agree with you.
     
  6. Coldhearted

    Coldhearted Active Member Full Member

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    This fight has probably raised the most questions ever, everybody seems to have a different angle and opinion.

    Judah is good but slightly over-rated I believe its because he has had a good level of competition consistently, Khan is always going to be questiooned up until he unifies the whole division and when he moves up that will be a whole new story altogether.

    I believe the mistake people are making is that they are judging Khan on McCloskey fight which makes sense as McCloskey was also a slick southpaw, but I know there will be a different Khan in the ring against Judah which is why I give him more chance of beating Judah, and if Judah camp base their strategy on the McCloskey fight then they are making a mistake too.
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Judah throws one punch at a time. Doesnt throw combinations. And sucks ass past the 4th round. Has a weak chin. Quits when shown resistance. Hasnt beaten an elite fighter in 6 years. Struggles with C level competition.

    Khan is bigger, faster at throwing combinations, better defensively, better footwork, and has Freddie Roach in his corner.



    Khan hasnt been knocked down in 3 years. Zab Judah's been knocked down in his last 2 fights.


    Khan has beaten Kotelnik, Barrera, Salita, Malignaggi, McChlosky and Maidana, in his last 6 fights.

    Zab Judah has beaten Ernest Johnson, Ubaldo Hernandez, Santa Cruz, Matthysse, and Mabuza in his last 5 fights.



    Khan will STOP Judah in 7 rounds. Book it.
     
  8. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After all the **** you talked you write the name Hernandez? Genaro was SFW with the size of a JMW. He also managed to avoid all the top contenders in his division: Gatti, Patterson, Leija, Ruelas and the rest, basically all of the Ring TOP10 ranked SFWs except No.10 in the division Alexandrov who he barely beat by SD. Then he beat a 40 year old Nelson by SD. The size difference was ridiculous. Nelson looked like a kid next to him. He quit like a ***** against Mayweather. He also quit against DLH but he had an excuse for that one: broken nose.
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    You are overrating how weak Khans chin is. OMG he got hurt by Maidana, who dropped Ortiz all around the ring and made him quit. No ****.


    He hasnt been knocked down in 3 years.


    Now his opponent has been dropped and has a propensity to quit when the going gets tough.


    Tell me, what happens if Khan catches Judah like he caught Maidana in their fight. You think Judah is going to fight through the pain, and keep coming forward, or do like he did against all the other champions with decent power he's faced in the past and quit?
    You feel he crumbled in the Maidana fight?
     
  10. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Do you disagree with that?

    You can't say that Judah will fail against Khan based on him doing so against the likes of Baldomir. Of what relevance is that? You only think you should base this fight on is style, skills, and physical attributes. They favour Khan IMO, but they by no means rule out Judah. They highlight the opportunities Zab has in this fight.

    If you want to say that Khan will beat Judah because Baldomir, Matthysse etc did, then knock yourself out. It holds no relevance to me.
     
  11. Coldhearted

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    You feel he crumbled in the Maidana fight?

    Actually I think crumbled is a harsh word but it certainly made him think and had him back pedalling for a short period,not discrediting him but the truth is the truth,even Khan will admit this.
     
  12. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you got to be ****ing kidding Right?!? Maidana is superior than Judah :patsch

    Maidana is limited skill, tuff one dimensional who only mission is to keep punching until his opponent goes down.

    Judah has so many more skill then Maidana the only thing Zab lack is stamina and focus.. Zab can counter , or lead and he has the ability to create openings. Zab defense is decent until he starts to ware down, if zab comes into the fight in good condition Khan could be in trouble.

    I doubt Maidana is on par skill wise with Zab or anyone Zab has fought in the past. In fact Lucas Matthysse is a far better fighter than Madana with better punching power.

    Maidana superior to Zab ? hell no !! tuffer yes, skill wise hell the **** NO!!
     
  13. Uncle Rico

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    Yes I felt Khan's body (not his heart!) began to crumble in the latter part of that fight. He was boxing his head off until he was wobbled in the 10th, and almost lost the fight because of how unreliable his chin can be.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Maidana would beat Judah up and make him quit.

    And?

    He also lacks heart, toughness, determination, and tenacity. As to why Maidana, has a victory over Ortiz, a level of fighter Judah hasnt beaten in 5 years.



    Judah cant lead.




    Basically he waits for his opponent to commit so he can throw one punch at a time. Usually a counter uppercut. When that doesnt work, he quits.



    Zab's defense is horrible. His shoulder roll is laughable. He blocks punches with his face. Look at his face after the Matthysse fight. Imagine what Khans going to do to it.

    Sure, whatever makes you feel better about your boy.
     
  15. Coldhearted

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    I'm loving the colour co-ordination Rico :good