The best version of Wladimir Klitschko vs best versions of Lewis and Bowe?

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  1. lefthook31

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    Bowe would destroy Corrie Sanders, Lamon Brewster and Ross Purrity way worse than Wlad did, oh wait.:blood
     
  2. Bummy Davis

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    Bowe may have seen better days but Golota was one of the best opponents that he faced as well. I don't think Vlad would have to take that kind of punishment that Golota did I see him keeping Bowe on the outside and tying him up and Vlad hit harder than Golota. Even the best version of Bowe got hit a lot. Bowe took a good punch but I see the jab and right hand being a factor and Vlads power keeping Riddick at bay for an eventual RSC
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

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    Yeah, I posted a thread about Miguel Lora, trying to get a better feel for him and I think I got 3 responses....even Lora (who I would guess chose his user name off of Happy???) didn't chime in! Maybe I should just post a thread on why fighter a would beat fighter b and when anyone responds with a differing view, I could just tell them I am here to educate them!
     
  4. Threetime no1

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    I see your points regarding Wlad's strengths and how susceptible Bowe is to being hit. I agree. i just think your overlooking the fact of how worrying it is to see Wlad react to any kind of pressure. You can be assured that Bowe and Lewis would be in aggressive mood versus a man of Klitschko's size and stature. Going by the manner of his defeats i don't see him coming through major moments of adversity has he would surely have to. I don't buy all this crap that Wlad is a different fighter now. Yes he has improved a lot under Steward, but i just see him showing his true colours again once someone penetrates that defence. It's a shame their is no one out there to do that. Haye may prove us wrong, but his chances are slim. Lewis and Bowes wouldn't be.
     
  5. Threetime no1

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    Maybe you should just do that then pp!
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

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  7. Threetime no1

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  8. PhillyPhan69

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    :lol: LOL!!!!

    :hi: Just doin my part to help educate you!!!
     
  9. Threetime no1

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    Well i think i've learnt as much as i can from you. Don't wanna limit myself with poor tutelage.:rasta
     
  10. PhillyPhan69

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  11. Threetime no1

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    ****in hell that was quick. You must of been keen to hear my answer has i didn't even have time to edit it.
    So clever with your use of colors and picking out words. Maybe i was wrong about you.
     
  12. Charles White

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    I may very well be biased here, but I don't see how Wladimir could possibly beat a prime, focused, well-conditioned Bowe (ala Holyfield 1 fight). Bowe had a great chin, so Wlad isn't going to knock him out. Bowe was a tremendous inside fighter (something that Wlad doesn't do too well against). They both have an 81' reach and Bowe had a very good jab to boot, so everybody saying that Wlad would outjab Bowe at all times needs to go back and look at Bowe's jab. I see Bowe roughing up Wladimir on the inside and stopping him in the middle rounds at some point.

    The intriguing thing about this matchup that isn't being mentioned is the trainer aspect. Wlad would have Manny Steward and Bowe would have Eddie Futch. I personally believe that Futch is the better trainer (perhaps even best trainer ever in my book) and would have the perfect gameplan in place for Bowe. The man could break down a fighter for his strengths and weaknesses like none other.

    All in all, this would have been a great fight if the two had come along at the same time in history.
     
  13. fists of fury

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    For me it's rather simple.
    Bowe and Lewis had a fighter's mentality. Wladimir does not, by nature, have that same mentality.

    I'd choose both to beat Wlad by knockout.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    I think bowe is massively overrated. He had a great night against holyfield but then again douglas had a great night against tyson. Bowe is not a great fighter imo: he went through hell to get second victories over holyfield and golota and props for the heart he showed but the guy is just too easy to hit.

    It is true that wlad has never established linearity, but make no mistake, that's only because he never contested the wbc belt due his brother's emeritus status. He has been the best heavyweight on the planet since 2006 and has looked as dominant as a heavyweight can be. He has a deeper resume than bowe and is more proven. The bowe from 92 against wlad of today has a good chance of victory but I wouldn't favour him to ever get beyond wlad's jab. I think wlad stops him late on.

    Vs lewis. wlad is like a poor man's lewis imo even though he has had a longer uninterrupted spell at the top. That being said lewis fought his great rival and wlad didn't. I see lewis beating wlad to the punch and bombing him out about round 4.
     
  15. Threetime no1

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    This is the exact reason why i don't think Wlad could beat either. I see the same outcome also.

    I know it's opinion, but i think your being a little harsh on Bowe mate. No doubt discipline let him down in his career. At his best though he was a pretty complete heavyweight. I agree the man got clapped too much, but he wasn't afraid of being hit and he always showed a proper fighting mentality.
    I don't underestimate Wlad's skills against either, his jab is awesome, and the straight right hand is a potent weapon. So it isn't hard to envision him landing on Bowe. At some point with a man who is as big has Wlad and with more all-round skill, Bowe would make him fight (as would Lewis), that for me is when Wlad comes unstuck. I would see Wlad being tentative as always and Bowe putting the pressure on and getting the win early to mid round. Wlad has never shown he has the stomach for a fight.