Boxing's integrity is in doubt because of non-existent doping control . . .

I don't give a ****. I hope they legalize all of this ****. Anabolic steroids have been in existence since the 30s. They've been used since the 50's in the olympics. In a world where we're using protein powders and glutamine and this and that and all sorts of other ****ed up supplements. I say let athletes take this ****. Go wild. In not too long we're gonna have gene doping with parents altering their kids from birth to be faster stronger bigger taller whatever... Are we not gonna let them compete?

**** it man. Let's just level the playing field and say it's alright because all this run around is pisseing me off.

 

In baseball today you have 3 guys who should be in the HOF but may never make it ,such a shame that people wanna believe that fighters and trainers don't cheat.

 

if it means more knockdowns..yes.

 

Nadal is a juicer and tennis is another sport where they need to sort out the testing. Footballers are subject to random testing during the season.

If mma has a ped culture which is pretty much widely accepted I really fail to see why people would think boxing does not. There is no doubt that fighters are juicing during training.

 

I can't speak for other states but if you are licensed in Nevada, you can be subject to random drug testing at any time, in or out of competition.

 

I don't agree with the accusers and their reasoning in their accusations but in reality there's probably a **** ton of fighters on PED's, half the sport wouldn't even be surprising considering this is the hurt business where PED's provide a bigger advantage then in just about any other sport and considering how slack the tests are in boxing and how they've been proven to be easy to beat. If baseball players/cyclers/football player are using ped's then you can bet a large portion of fighters are too since it's easier for them to get away with it with slacker testing than in other sports.

 

Chtrists Divac..I have NEVER been against implementing better testing. What I am against are accusation made public about PED usage w/o ANY proof. OR the fact that it's those accusations that ****ed us.

Fine, if YOU really believe Floyd's wanting to 'clean the sport' :roll:, good for you. But he could have actually MADE an effort to do so. He didn't. This was nothing more then a ploy to avoid Pac. And it's pretty much Floyd fanatics or fans of someone Pac beat who are so up at arms over this. Just shows how bitter you are.

IF it's SOO Bad, let me what I've asked many others. WHo are these guys beating the system? ANd how does anyone knwo they are cheating? Just a hunch?

 

I wasn't aware boxing ever had any integrity?

 

That's their choice man. You're gonna get some form of CTE boxing anyway.

 

Boxing's integrity has had problems before this current outbreak of fighters looking to find excuses to avoid fighting or for losing by claiming their opponent is a cheat.

Boxing will be alright even if there are a few "BRAVE" men who are willing to look like sissies crying for extra tests and risk of legal retaliation.

There are "Sufficient" measures in place at the Olympic level, correct? Are we to say that ALL olympic athletes are clean and no one gets away with beating the system?:verysad

It won't be any different if we got FULL OLYMPIC TESTING in boxing....let alone the watered down version Floyd pushed for.

 

It isn't like there's not weight divisions. If you want to fight me at 147, and I work my ass off to get down to the weight, and dehydrate myself...Then after I make weight I balloon up to 165, and your actually a natural 147 THATS YOUR PROBLEM!

I do think same day weigh-ins would be a good idea though (not just for PED accusations, but it's bad for the boxers to dehydrate themselves).

 

I hope every fan read your post. Cos doesnt matter if your a Pac fan or a PBF fan.
Not all the tests find every cheat.

I agree thats boxing's tests are not perfect but for **** sake they are the rules in place at the moment.

And as far as evidence says Pac has not cheated as has Mayweather.
Its like cycling which by the way has the most and by far more advanced drug testing in sport but i bet a Million ****ing dollars they dont catch everyone.

If Pacquiao says to me that he isnt cheating or taking PEDS and his tests suggest this and his willing to take PBF to court for slander I as a Boxing fan believe him. Theres no ****ing Evidence not to.

Do i wish our testing was better well YES but my concern is who flips the huge testing bill.

Boxing is not like Cycling. Cyclists are normally at a Event in certain countries at time of testing they do do random at times but most the time it coincides with a Event.

Boxing well theres how many Pro Boxers and they all fight and train at different times. And i feel it would be unfair to just test the fighters on big card events or top 10 fighters.
And testing is not cheap.

Urine Tests before and after a fight although not perfect is better than nothing however you start random testing it would mean every Boxing Pro would have to pay like a yearly fee to cover this testing.
And i feel most boxers wont agree with parting with a Yearly fee especially the ones that dont earn your Pac , PBF type money.

And i have to say do you really see Boxing Commisions paying this huge Bill. NO.

So our testing is not Olympic and its not random.
But i read that the IOC pay $30 million dollars a year for these tests. But having said that in Boxing the Cost would go up. WHY you would have a bigger area to cover and you would need to employ more people to travel to these places to do tests.
Were the IOC sends teams mostly to the Olympics and then to say Commonwealth games like the cycling really to events.

Were Boxing the events are every ****ing week. Every Week no Every Day there is just about a Boxing event.

Now some might come on here after this huge ass long post and say just test the big events.
But how the **** is that fair to say a fighter who is a up and comer and cheats the system because he fought in say Colombia and is 25-0 then suddenly oh his trainer says after he gets his Title shot you cant take PEDS for this fight and he gets Knocked out in 1 ****ing round or some **** like that.

The system i say is not ****ing perfect but **** come on i feel Random testing is to much.
I feel they need to do a Blood and Urine Test say

1st test when Fight gets signed
2nd Test training camp (Unscheduled can rock up whenever)
3rd Test after the Fight

Me as a fan would be happy with that.

 

sadly, most people are unaware of this

 

Now, I know I'm a genius, but I thought it was pretty obvious that Ortiz would be a huge Welterweight because he was a massive Junior Welterweight. I guess everybody else isn't on my level of boxing knowledge so they think, "well, Ortiz was big, so he must be on PED's." :roll: ****ing morons.