Has there been a bigger waste of talent than Mayweahter?

no mercy huh MDubb?

 

So you cant guage whether Mayweather is elite anymore? So Mosley was not the best opponent to fight besides Pacquiao?

Isnt JMM going to fight Pac? Considering Pacquiao has fought Margarito, Mosley and JMM is he still elite in your eyes.

Goddamn you're a buffoon,

You're top 25 is awful. Clearly you have no idea of boxing history. Oscar top 25? Holyfield? Where's Lennox Lewis?

 

Hell naw wit these dumbass muther****ers.


Anyone who puts Holyfield and Oscar De La Hoya in their top 25 doenst know **** about boxing. Neither one was considered the best fighter of their era in their division. Holyfield lost twice to Bowe, and lost twice to Lewis. Oscar lost to Mosley, and just barely shaded an shot whitaker and Ike Quartey.


You can tell he got this list on line and just filled it in with names he knew. I mean Oscar De La hoya. I love Oscar. But even I know he's barely in the top 50.



If he would have put in someone like Stanley Ketchel who is just now starting to get his props from Boxing historians, you might have been able to say he had a legit list. But you can tell he copy and pasted 99% of it.

 

We won't see anyone consistently put on masterful performances like this for 2 or 3 decades. He obviously worked hard to develop his talent.

 

LOL! THis dumbass muther****er dont even have Roy Jones Jr in his top 25. He's got OScar and Holyfield over Roy Jones Jr. You can make this **** up folks. Roy would have made Oscar his ***** had they been in the same division. Roy beat two ATG's something neither or Oscar or Holyfield did, yet he has them ahead of him. You cnt make this **** up.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

go easy on em....

 

Im through with this ****. Muther****ers got into the sport because of Hatton and Joe Slapzaghe and start throwing around their dumbass top 25's and ****. Dont know **** about the history of the sport. Dont watch any fight film. I could show this muther****er a picture of Harry Greb and he wouldnt know who the **** he was. I bet this dumbass muther****er doensnt even know why Greb is considered an all-time great.

Talkin bout OScar in the top 25 ahead of Roy Jones Jr. Man he'd have gotten shot in the 80's talking that ****.


I'd like to drop his dumbass off in the hood talking about Oscar better then Roy Jones Jr. see how fast somebody slap his ass

 

:-(





He is the most talented boxer in the game at this point.

So ?



Floyd, as the TS stated, has wasted more talent than most boxers ever get to exhibit.

He's overloaded with talent, but he lacks the qualities neede to become truly great.

 

Agreed.

Perhaps the biggest waste of talent still boxing.

Naw. Very good and has achieved quite a bit. But has much less talent than he's given credit for.

(Dirrell has talent, but no balls.)

Mike done plenty.

He could have done more with better coaching and guidance after Cus, but he's far from a great waste of talent.

We'll never know.

Has major achievements against the possible of his time. Hardly a waste.

And with less talent than some of those being mentioned.

Has a reasonable excuse, and besides, less talented than the names we're bandying.

 

Many boxers are ambitious and train since being a kid, with competent trainers. Very few reach the level Floyd is on.
You have to be very talented to get to Floyds level.

 

Why is it that whenever anyone criticises Floyd, Michigan Warrior throws his toys everywhere and starts crying?

There's plenty of reasonable answers in this thread as to their opinions of Floyd's career..... some positive, some negative.

I've never done an all time P4P list but I'd imagine Floyd would sit somewhere between 40-60 on mine. Below Pacquiao, Hopkins, Jones, Holyfield, Lewis and Whitaker.

 

Where's yours then?

 

Don't think you'll see many lists with fitz at the top. Nor would you see many with robinson at number 5.

If copying and pasting is something you do then that's upto you but I personally don't see the point in forging a list that's personal to yourself, kinda defeats the objective.

Holyfield is there because he is the greatest ever at cruiserweight and was the best heavyweight for almost a decade even tho he was a small heavyweight. Upuntil lewis he had beaten everyman he fought including qawi, deleon, douglas, tyson, foreman, holmes, bowe, moorer and others I can't remember off top of my head.

I explained my oscar reasoning before.

I don't have jones in because he was never the man in a division, never fought jackson at mw, never fought benn or the guy that beat nunn at smw, never fought dm at lhw. Great fighter but never a true champ, not ranked past 30 yet so i'm not sure exactly where I put him.

As for ketchel, kinda like sanchez he was taken from us at a young age and h2h he could have been a beast at mw, he certainly beat a lot of the top regarded mw's of his day.

 

Twas actually bruno who got me into boxing he fought tyson.

Greb, first time i've heard you talk about a fighters not from the 00's - i'm impressed! Every man and his dog needs to know about the 7 year itch I mean that guy had an amazing run in 1919 going 45-0 and achieved more that year than most achieve in a whole career. Like jones he never got a shot at the lhw champ even tho he was clearly the best of the time (as he proved by kicking levinski's arse in non title fights) did dempsey duck him? Hard to say but he certainly fought guys greb had previously beaten and he certainly failed to defend against other notable contenders (harry wills anyone?). Some reported that greb got the better of his series with tunney which is amazing considering only 1 of these fights were above the lhw limit. We have the 2 best lhw's in the world kicking the stuffing out of each other yet being avoided by the champs of the day as the belt flowed from levinski through to mctigue without ever being defended against the windmill or the marine. Much like how lesnevic never defended against charles (my top atg lhw btw even tho he also never got his shot).

The reason I place monzon and hagler is because they were greats in a traditional division. Napoles and griffith also got close to my top 25.

 

Compare their last 3 years with each other. Pac has proven he's elite against the best of 3 divisions.

My god use your head man, at the time we thought mosley was good because he smacked margo around 18 months previously, so props to floyd for taking the fight. We can clearly see the guy is shot and hasn't been the same fighter for years, margo was his "last great performance". So whilst he was perceived to be the best option, we can look back now knowing how shot he is and say the fight shows nothing about how elite floyd still is. It'll look good on his resume that he beat the number 1 ww, but contextually we know there's more to it. When was the last live opponent floyd fought? Hatton, hoya? Them fights were years ago.