Yeah that's old school to me and anything before it. I'm 30 and that's when I got into boxing, late 80s from my pops always watching. Definately didn't understand it like i do now but I started to in the early/mid 90s. So yeah, your old school is different than mine and old school is always changing. New school I see as post 2000. If you are talking 15 round fight and beyond old school then I understand that too because that's what someone 40 might say. My dad is 65 so what do you think he would see as old school? There is a difference in the quality of fighters and how commercialized the game has become.
lol seriously though compare the all around skill set of Toney, Mccallum, Kalambay, Nunn to Taylor, Pavlik, Sturm, Martinez. You can see MW's devolve in 20 years time, forget about throwing them in the ring with Freddie ****ing Steele and the 30's golden era of MW's.
When they talk about old school I think about the 1920's, 30's, 40's... Anything from the 80's and up I consider it the best years and best fighters with the greatest abilities and variety skills/styles to be the best. I dont buy that these old school fighters were the best in this sport.
It really is an evolution, trainers today have realized that not every fighter it the same. George Foreman's come back has proven that fighters need not be ripped to be a champion. Thing's like a good ring IQ is more important than six-pack abs, a photo-perfect left hook is useless if misses. It's better to slow the pace down and keep your guard up than to go in windmilling. So it is an evolution.:good
Old school is anything before Ali's reign, when you started to see modern techniques and training. There are a few old school fighters who had a modern style, but that's a pretty good cutoff point when they started to realize how important nutrition etc was, and fighters started getting scientific about their weight and strength. Old and New school isn't about dividing boxing into time periods, it's about the old windmilling, straight off the street type fighters and modern athletes with modern methods of training.
YOU MUST WORK LIKE A TRADESMAN Could it have something to do with the frequency of fights? I mean, how do you expect to rise to the top of your profession when you ply your trade only once or twice a year? But, I think the reason goes even deeper than that. And it goes back to doing things Old School. Who actually works to master their craft ? A fighter loses and sometimes they don't recover from that loss .
I feel like it's a very different sport. Not necessarily better or worse, but very different. I don't feel like fighters know less tricks of the trade today, I think they use different tricks. I would like to see more matchups, but if you are able to make millions fighting twice a year, what incentive do you have to fight 5,6,7,8 times a year? If you can rise through the ranking fighting "cans" then what personal reason do you have to do it otherwise. Talk about pride and heart all you want, but sports are about making money.
what a dumbass. they should test people before letting them make a membership. all 3 would destroy pac-boy
I will keep on saying this Robinson, Willy Pep, Dempsey, or Archie would have not had the same success and numbers if they began their career's in the 80's and after. My opinion which many will disagree, but I just feel that todays fighters with all this great knowledge of info and techniques, nutrition and all that stuff has made them stronger and smarter inside and outside the ring. Just look at the pics we have WW coming in looking like MW on fight night. Guys like Whitaker with great defense, Chavez with body attacks, Tyson power, Roy's speed, Hagler, Hearns, Benitez all around skills, Marquez adapting and the list goes on...
If you give any of those greats the advantages that fighters of today have combined with their work ethic they would be on par with most if ot all of the legends in the 80's and after ..Lets not forget that they fought more frequent so they can fine tune their skills ..
Thats what im trying to get, could you imagine Robinson fighting Benitez and three weeks later Hearns and then a month later Hagler and then three weeks later Leonard and so many other names. All those guys brought different styles and techniques and were all masters in their game. I just doubt Robinson or any of those guys would have been able to carry the schedule fighting so often like they did in todays era, I just dont see it how they could accomplish those same feats they did in their time....
That sort of stuff did happen though. Not necessarily with Robinson(who was more carefully guided than most realize) but here's an example. Look at how quickly LaMotta and Robinson rematched each other. Ted Kid Lewis and Jack Britton. Some crazy matchmaking back then.