Lewis as 9th best HW ever?

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  1. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They should change the name to the Hall of Greatness then. :mad:
     
  2. GazOC

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    They'd have to kick half the fighters out!
     
  3. bam bam

    bam bam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Totally agreed mate.

    Yeah I can understand what you're saying and that thread would be pretty good I imagine:good
     
  4. D-MAC

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    And?:hey
     
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    Lennox wouldn't make my top 10.
    I think people who have him in the top 3 or top 5 are overrating him by a lot, but it's all just opinion.
     
  6. TFFP

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    I think you're underrating him by a lot to not even have him in a top 10.
     
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    Like I said, it's all just opinion. :good

    I didn't rate Lewis particularly highly 10 years ago. I don't think I will revise that opinion just because it's become fashionable to call him a top 5 all-time heavyweight.
    I remember the mid-late 1990s and early 00s being quite a dreary heavyweight scene, and Lewis was quite disappointing at least half the time. Now often I read about how wonderful the likes of Mercer and McCall and Tua were in their alleged "primes".
    I suppose I need to get myself a pair of the rose-tint specs, that'll sort it out ! :good

    Again, that's just my take.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'm not sure theres a giant conspiracy taking place for everyone to rank him in the top 5 mate. A lot of people just happen to think that, and not without reason IMO. I think around about 5 is probably fair. Or including him lower in a top 10 would be reasonable. Whereas I really struggle to see justification for him not seeing a top 10. I want to see the other 10 names in that scenario.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I wasn't implying there's a conspiracy.
    Yes, whatever the reason, a lot of people have him in the top 5.

    I didn't think he was anywhere near top 5 all-time back in 1999 or 2000 or 2003, and I haven't learned anything new about him since then, so I'd be a hypocrite to just follow the crowd on that.
     
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    1 Ali
    2 Louis
    3 Holmes
    4 Marciano
    5 Lewis
    6 Foreman
    7 Tyson
    8 Frazier
    9 Johnson
    10 Dempsey
     
  11. Lunny

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    Wasn't Holmes' reign seen similarly? Now it would be blasphemy to have him outside the top 10.

    I read that Facing Ali book a couple of weeks ago and it made out that Holmes was only just being considered an ATG in 2000. I don't remember as I wasn't around in his prime and only started getting into boxing around 2005.
     
  12. Benoit on Roids

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    :lol:Maybe because he never retired until 02...boxers always get more praise after retirement.
     
  13. GazOC

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    Distance in time gives a bit of perspective. Holmes and Lewis probably benefit from that while Tyson suffers,
     
  14. Threetime no1

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    I have him 5th or 6th on any given day.
     
  15. Lunny

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    Agreed with this.

    You need that distance to be able to judge the era as a whole and get rid of the hype/emotional attachments.

    That's why I don't like seeing people trying to rate the likes of Wlad, Vitali, Pacquiao etc. now. Give it a few years then we'll see.