Juan Manuel Marquez Presents the Evolution of Chavez Jr. in the Ring

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  1. Bogotazo

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    Video can be found here:

    http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/tv/programas/golpe-a-golpe


    From the fight against Cuello

    Announcer Dude: So how should the left hook to the liver be thrown, because we've seen, Juan, how he's thrown it looping all the way around, getting behind the arm of his opponent. So how is it thrown?

    JMM: That's right. The left hook to the liver, has to always be thrown right here, here (under the elbow). You don't have to loop, you don't have to widen the shot, because you take away all of the power. But if you throw it this way, you put all of your shoulder into it, and you turn, turn with all of your body behind it. But you don't have to throw in the complete curve of the hook, or else you reduce its force.

    Announcer Dude: In that moment, Julio Cesar thought that was the best option, and he was simply wasting his time with a badly thrown hook.

    From the fight against Rowland

    Announcer Dude: The problem in this fight for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. was that his punches were plainly isolated, combinations having maximum a pair of punches. No more.

    JMM: Yes, what happens is that Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. makes a mistake. He's the fighter with greater height. Why throw your hooks in this way (throws excessively wide)? Why not better jab, jab, and throw punches inside- and he always has this method of throwing an uppercut (right), and to go downstairs (left to the body). Why not change it? Uppercut (right), feint to the body, and change it going upstairs to a left hook to the head. Now many fighters recognize that he throws the left to the liver area, why not feint and change it to a left hook + right hand + uppercut?

    From the fight against Duddy

    Announcer Dude: He was confident, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., of being able to do a good job, and finally the motivation of having Freddie Roach in the corner; it brought him success. What did you see, from the short video we saw, that might have changed from the Chavez Jr. that we knew to an improved Chavez Jr. Juan?

    JMM: Look, what we saw here, what he had in front of him was an opponent who answered. An opponent who answers everything, so from there what you have to do is parry/block the punches and throw combinations of punches, to keep yourself moving, and also what can be seen in Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. that he now changed was that he utilized more, he utilizes now more defense (moves upper-body around). Now he gets out of the way and hits you. What he did before was simply receive, and hit back.

    Announcer Dude: Mhm, put his face out there and..

    JMM: Exactly.

    Announcer Dude: The left hand of Julio is always strong, downstairs or upstairs, but now he accompanies it with others.

    JMM: Yes, he accompanies it which is important. When you throw a hook up top, you always have to follow it with a right hand, or else you run the risk of you eating a left hook as well, or also an uppercut.

    Announcer Dude: You become predictable, the other one learns and corrects. Adjusts.

    JMM: Exactly. He adjusts, and I think it's important to throw combinations of three to four punches so that the opponent doesn't anticipate the next punch.

    Announcer Dude: The highest point then, in the career of Chavez Jr., after that convincing victory against John Duddy, whom he truly could not knock out.

    From the fight against Lyell

    JMM: ...Because after the seventh round, the rhythm of combat starts to slow down. It's when his opponent starts to attack him, and starts hitting him. I think that here, the important thing is the physical stamina, which is lacking for Chavez Jr, perhaps stopping him from winning a fight by knockout. Because he throws combinations of three punches, he tires, and from right there he leaves you alone.

    Announcer Dude: And that's giving your opponent the opportunity to push forth...

    JMM: Yes, to answer. I think that conditioning is a very fundamental aspect. Why don't you throw combinations, and then from there, move (sidesteps), and start throwing again? Because fighters, for all they can endure, I don't think they can take a sequence of three or four well connected punches.

    Announcer Dude: When the opponent opened his eyes suddenly (lowers guard a bit), Ron Lyell, Chavez already wasn't there, and he hit him with a right from this other side.

    JMM: No, he was already gone; he passed/turned him (sidestepped right), and threw a hook and a right, but why not repeat it? And so-

    Announcer Dude: He's coming up short with his combinations.

    JMM: He's coming up short, and I think that...

    Announcer Dude: The conditioning, the tiring...

    JMM: Exactly, that- that is what limits you from potentially having a good performance up in the ring, because if you don't have a great reserve of physical stamina, it doesn't help you at all.

    Announcer Dude: Supposedly, we can assume that that is now resolved, against Zbik, no?

    JMM: That's right, I think so. I think that the corner should have adjusted that, his people, so we can expect, I think, good things from Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
     
  2. PH|LLA

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  4. Swarmer

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    i wish JMM could break ESPN america's fights down instead of ****ing atlas :lol:
     
  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Marquez is really good at analyzing boxing, its a great read.
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I personally think it's kind of funny how in this particular interview, it may seem like he's basically saying "Why doesn't he do what I do and fight like me? Circle and change the angle, slip and counter-punch, and throw beautifully fluid and accurate combinations?" He's right though, all those fundamentals he's stressing aren't just his own particulars but plain old good advice for any fighter.
     
  7. Bogotazo

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    As do I, markiepoop. As do I.
     
  8. Bogotazo

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    Wow, post any technical talk unrelated to Pac and May and you get nothing but crickets chirping, eh? :roll:
     
  9. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice breakdown from someone who knows there stuff unlike Atlas, I really like JMM.
     
  10. Doc

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    Jmm 4 president.
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

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    he would make an excellent trainer because he knows when a fighter is making a mistake. he is right on point with chavez, his stamina and he doesnt always commit, he goes half-ass
     
  12. Boxing Fanatic

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    u mean, throw a hook, then a right, boom! :lol::patsch
     
  13. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I mean his breakdown of what happened in the fights and what JCC Jr. did wrong. :patsch
     
  14. Emeritus

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    The thing I like about JMM is he seems to be a student of the game.

    I would like to read of his analysis keep them coming please Bogotazo
     
  15. Boxing Fanatic

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    i was imitating atlas :lol: