Henry Armstrong or Harry Greb - who had the more impressive peak runs?

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  1. quarry

    quarry Guest

    Here we go again.. your now going to "TRASH THE CAREER" of Henry Armstrong :huh
     
    quarry, May 31, 2011
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  2. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gibbons was past his own peak as well, though. He had retired a couple years earlier, and was on the comeback trail when Greb beat him in their rematch (prior to Gibbons' retirement, he had reportedly just edged Greb). Granted, Gibbons was still respected, but now he was losing or struggling vs. fighters he had beaten easily a couple years earlier (ie: George Chip, Jeff Smith). Also, fighters that had previously shied away from him (ie: Mike O'Dowd) were now deciding to try their luck with him.
     
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  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you not think Gibbons could be considered the better fighter at the times of these respective fights, how they fought in said fight, and where their careers went afterwards and why?
     
    JAB5239, May 31, 2011
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  4. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was winning at the top level still, no?

    My question remains..Can this be a comparative win for Greb as Ross was for Armstrong?
     
    JAB5239, May 31, 2011
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  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nobody at the time thought Ross was past it. And he wasn´t. Armstrong just was that good. And Ross retired because of that beating. He may have thought afterwards he didn´t have it anymore but I don´t think it was because that was the case. He lost because Armstrong was that f*cking good.
     
    bodhi, May 31, 2011
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  6. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was definitely sighted in the years u bracket.
    I had just scanned the header when i made this post.
     
    SLAKKA, May 31, 2011
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  7. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What Greb did in 1919 may be the single (45 bouts/45 wins) most impressive effort(s) in all of boxing.
     
    Ted Spoon, May 31, 2011
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  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Armstrong for me. They spanned the same amount of weights, have comparable wins, but Armstrong has a win in his highest weight class over a top 10 P4P'er. Its an amazing feat. I'd say thats the slimmest of edges.
     
    GPater11093, Jun 1, 2011
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  9. PhillyPhan69

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    I edge towards Armstrong, but the difference is negligible. We are really splitting hairs, in trying to give an edge to one of the other in any decisive manner.
     
    PhillyPhan69, Jun 1, 2011
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  10. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Didnt know you thought Ross was top 10 p4p material greg. Anyway i think I'll go Armstrong as well. Ross is a huge accomplishment, not only as a win and a name but skipping over a full division to one sidedly whip a guy like that is pretty impressive.
     
    Swarmer, Jun 1, 2011
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  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Yeh I'm a big admirer of Ross.
     
    GPater11093, Jun 1, 2011
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  12. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So was Ross. In his previous title defense, he had beaten #1 contender Ceferino Garcia, who later went on to win the MW title.


    I don't think so. Gibbons and Ross were both fading ATGs, but Armstrong was jumping straight up two major weight classes to upset Ross.
     
    My2Sense, Jun 4, 2011
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  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good points, both. :good
     
    JAB5239, Jun 5, 2011
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  14. Unforgiven

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    It's a difficult one.
    I'd say Armstrong because he knocked out or stopped the vast majority, whereas Greb only scored a few knockouts. I value the KO.
    BUT .. Greb was even busier than Armstrong ! I think he had more fights in 1919 alone than Armstrong had in 1937 and '38 combined.
     
    Unforgiven, Sep 19, 2014
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  15. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    agree with above- armstrong knocked those dudes out
     
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