I thought Glen Johnson won the fight

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do not score activity, but landed punches.I also rate clean hard shots higher than combos which do not land cleanly.


    I agree with the rest of your anlyzis.
     
  2. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, I'm always amazed at the number of people who can discern between a landed punch, and shot that get blocked, parried, or rolled. It really takes away from the sport when you have defensive guy who has all of these subtle skills, and yet the judges score the fight for the guy who threw a bunch of punches that didn't land.
     
  3. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't either, but a lot of people and judges do and that's why we sometimes see some of the scoring that we do.
     
  4. GrandSlam

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    The Sky commentary was terrible...by all accounts the Showtime commentary was in Froch's favour...but Jim Watt just makes me question everything I'm looking at. He ALWAYS moans about British fighters, and what they're not doing right, and him and Rawling (who I don't actually mind that much, and is very pro Froch in other fights he's commentated on) kept dropping their guts everytime Johnson landed!

    It's hard to watch a fight impartially with that going on, because other than a few clean power shots, Johnson was getting out worked, out thrown, out landed and out manouevered. He never threw a punch or combo that wasn't answered instantly by Froch, and even in rounds where he landed clean, in many cases I think he lost the rounds on workrate.

    Ok it wasn't Froch's best performance, but he clearly won. He never looked like he was about to go down, so anyone suggesting he was 'in trouble' is overdoing it slightly I think.
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, and people also are influenced confused by biased commentatory like last night from showtime.They just wanted to see Ward-Froch because it sells better. Tarver was terribly biased.
     
  6. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just rewatched(SKY). Froch won the fight clearly IMO
     
  7. Irländsk

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    Froch landed more punches, Froch threw more punches, Froch controlled the pace, Froch controlled the distance, Frcoh did everything better than Johnson.
    Johnson landed 6 or 7 quality right hands, that's it, and not only did Froch walk through them, he answered with counter combinations.
    To those saying Johnson blocked most of Froch's punches, there is not either a landed punch or a blocked punch and that's it, a lot of Froch's punches were partially blocked, but the accumulative effect they had on Johnson kept him from charging forward and crowding Froch, which means he wasn't able to maul on the inside as he usually does.
     
  8. Lunny

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    At the very most I could see it as a draw but even then not really. I can't really see how Johnson would have won more than 6 rounds.

    I had it Froch by 2 points.
     
  9. Just watched the fight and i think even to score a draw would be un-reasonable. Comfortable win for Froch.
     
  10. AnotherFan

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    The "Cleaner work"-crowd in action once more. As usual in order to discredit a brittish fighter. Hopkins, Dirrell, Johnson, they where alll outworked and outpunshed, BUT - they did the Cleaner Work.

    :blood
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I give credit to johnson's body work also, the constant left jab to the solo plexus.You do not mention it at all.

    Combos werent landed cleanly,to me it was most of the time pitty patt stuff. I rate the body work and harder shots of Johnson higher.It is all subjective.

    As for ring generalship?I do not see how you can give it to Froch based on his ugly awkard style.

    As for ring generalship? I did not see Froch establishing a very effective jab.
     
  12. SportsLeader

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    Johnson did not win seven rounds. No way.
     
  13. The_President

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    Johnson was just a tad too old last night.
    Ward isn't, and based on Froch's **** poor performance against an old man, I can safely say that Ward is going to easily spank that British ass.
    An the winner of the Super Six Tournament; Andre Ward who bested Carl Froch by 11th round TKO.
     
  14. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    I didn't see Johnson establish body work in the fight, he started to work Froch to the body in round 3 but he wasn't getting in close enough to make an impact, and it pretty much dies out after that, that left jab wasn't so constant as you say and Johnson was often too far out of range to get any steam on it.
    The majority of Johnson's punches were pitty pat aside from the few flush right hands he landed.
    Froch's style may be ugly to you but that does not mean he didn't dictate the flow and pace of the fight, he put Johnson completely off his game plan.
    Froch out-jabbed Johnson, though I agree his jab wasn't as effective as usual in this fight.
     
  15. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had a feeling that everytime Johnson landed a shot, people were going to give him the round. Thats what happened on some cards here it seems. Froch was the clear winner of that fight.