Andre Wards weaknesses

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  1. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Johnson has decent pop but was never really a ko puncher. Chin isn't what won Froch his fight against Johnson, it's his boxing ability when he wanted to use it and his combinations/constant workrate. He was just the smarter boxer and was more consistent than Johnson from the parts I saw in that fight.
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think this could be key.

    To keep Froch off of you, you need power. People can say Taylor and Dirrell weren't punchers but they are both the type of punchers who will stun an opponent. Probably not knock them out, but they have a good history of hurting tough fighters. Abraham was down against Dirrell and Pavlik was down against Taylor, so these aren't feather fisted punchers. They both put more into to their power shots than Ward does, and I think that could be key. Froch literally has nothing to worry about with Ward. He can walk him down, eat anything Ward has and laugh at it. If it turns into the type of fights where both men trade, Ward will get knocked out.

    Froch has a seriously huge advantage in chin and power over Ward, who is feather fisted and doesn't have a solid chin. If Froch lands the punches against Ward that he landed last night, a stoppage is on the cards.
     
  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Was it AA,s lack of speed that made Froch deal with him so easily. Ward has nothing but a jab to keep him off him but he is guna be a bit quicker than Froch.
     
  4. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    You don't get hit by flush punches from Miranda and Abraham without having a solid chin. It's fair to say Ward doesn't take as much as Froch so we rarely see his chin tested but it's solid. Not in the league of Froch's chin but solid enough to face punchers as he did but I do agree that if Ward goes to war with Froch he will get ko'd which I don't think he'll do anyways. Ward is overrated and shows nothing to suggest that he'd beat Froch easily or even clearly as like you said, you need power to keep Froch off of you and Ward simply doesn't have it. Also like I said, if Ward wants to get dirty than Froch can do the same as he's no pushover and isn't scared to break the rules. Tough fight for Ward and foolish to suggest otherwise especially since Froch has the longer reach while possessing and solid jab.
     
  5. AnotherFan

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    If Andre gets serious problems with Froch, and I think he will, then he will pull out every dirty trick in the book. Constant holding and headbutts that are UNEARTHLY UGLY. Of course he will disrupt Froch constantly by using his shoulder.

    Wards cheating will give him an ugly, close and debatable decision. Froch will be the one with the fans, Ward will be the one with the titles.
     
  6. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It has to do with Froch's terrible defense. Ward won't knock out Froch but he'll pot-shot him to death.

    Froch will, however, put on a rabbit punching exhibition.
     
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    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You're right, Froch will walk Ward down, walk in to flush shots and probably grin a lot on his way to a comfortable UD loss.
     
  8. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Yes but you didn't have to use the johnson example to justify frochs defensive issues, it's a known fact..

    All i was saying is it's a bad example to use johnson when breaking down Froch vs Ward. Forch has answered all the questions, you know he will bring it and i think the common consensus is that ward is good and may potshot his way to victory BUT also I think that ward is not the kind of fighter to run all night whilst pot shotting on the back foot... With this in mind the potential for him to be there to be beat up by froch is very real indeed.

    On the other hand whilst froch has answered all the questions we are still yet to see if ward can deal with the **** as it goes.
     
  9. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    i think froch should brawl with ward, he has the chin and strength to do this, while ward doesnt have to power to keep him off
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I like Froch and felt he was a clear winner against Johnson, but I always watch Froch thinking he could do more.
    I think if anything costs Froch it is his lack of workrate and the fact he steps off when he hurts his opponent alot of times, or maybe doesnt realise when he has them hurt.
    Still Froch only has to land

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  11. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Froch is not a crowding pressure fighter type. He's fancies himself a boxer with a rangy jab. He likes to fight in the center of the ring. He's not going to impose himself physically on Ward in close quarters. If he tries that, he'll be doing exactly what Ward wants him to do.

    His best chance in my opinion is to fight from distance and make Ward play offense and try and counter him with something big. But he lacks the handspeed and defensive abilities to pull that off in my opinion. We'll see!
     
  12. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Only? Ward hasn't been down since and that footage was from '05. Since then he's took flush punches from Abraham and Miranda yet failed to go down. Even the decent puncher in Green landed a flush left hook and Ward laughed at it. Ward isn't going to be as easy of a target as Johnson, Kessler, and Abraham were.
     
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    Andre Ward by wide decision I think.

    Froch lacks fundamentals and his jab is just plain awful. He also pulls his right hand back when he jabs.
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont disagree.
    I do feel if Froch does a bit more and pressures he can win, but this is down to Froch
     
  15. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I'm sick of Ward and his protection but the guy has talent I'll admit that. He doesn't have power and that will hurt him against Froch. He doesn't even have the footspeed to really give Froch problems but his footwork is solid and I'm sure he'll use his "head" when it comes to trying to beat Froch. Froch is no easy task and Ward will need to think twice about bullying Froch. I'd like to see that, he would cry when getting his own medicine by Froch.