can the europeans beat andre ward?.....

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  1. jermainerambo

    jermainerambo Member Full Member

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    europeans have always domanted the 168 pound
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    is 2-0 against europe he beat the best european mikkel kessler all europe has to offer now is

    wbo champ Robert Stieglitz 40-2

    ibf champ Lucian Bute 28-0

    wbc paper champion Carl Froch "mikkel kessler the real wbc champion"

    i hear
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    calzaghe
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    is running and going to the gym regularly:D

    can andre ward do what no american has done before conquer 168?....:yep:yep:verysad:verysad

    joe calzaghe needs to come back and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat
     
    jermainerambo, Jun 6, 2011
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  2. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Calzaghe gives a **** if Froch beats Ward or not.

    As for Stieglitz , no chance.
     
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  3. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It really doesn't matter Ward couldn't even hold one of Calzaghe's logs; Joe is/was so far ahead of Ward in every department it is unreal.

    Ward is a poor man's substitutue for Calzaghe all style no real substance.
     
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  4. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :patsch You cant be serious with this crap!
     
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  5. Paulie

    Paulie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's true, Calzaghe is still running......aways from the 168 lbs division !! Run Joe Run !!!
     
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  6. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Carl Froch a paper champion? Get the **** out of here :patsch
     
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  7. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm deadly bloody serious. Ward was gifted vs Bika; he couldn't do or adapt to squat. Calzaghe is faster with better footwork, smarter, more stamina, higher output and an overall better technical boxer.

    What does Ward do again? Oh yes he is fast and er.......punches and grabs? :huh
     
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  8. outslugger

    outslugger The Relentless Stalker Full Member

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    Yeah of course, there's millions of them, the only trouble I see is the transportation issues, cuz Ward would fight them all in CA
     
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  9. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :patsch So what you're basically doing, dismissing everything Ward does...You left out the fact that he can make proper adjustments during his fights...You left out the fact that he has a good, crisp jab....Also, when have you seen Ward sucking wind??? His stamina is on par with anybody in the game today...He doesnt show up under prepared...And I dont see how you can say Calzaghe is techinally sound when he throws some of the wildest combinations.

    Something else, meaning you have a high workrate really isnt nothing speacial...that can always be negated if you're fighting a good counter puncher.

    Ward was not given a gift decision vs Bika...You may think he got a gift decision, but that doesnt equate to being a fact.:verysad

    He sure as hell didnt grab and hold against AA ( his latest fight)

    its safe to say that no matter what you'll still have some reason to talk down on Ward!
     
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  10. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is it with you UK guys? How can anybody possibly be so dumb and ignorant?
     
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  11. Rudyard

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    :-( I wouldnt say all of this but its clear as day that the guy is being a hater...To say he doesnt do anything well is beyond pathetic!
     
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  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    hahahahaha
    idiot

    Andre Ward fight # 21 vs Kessler 42-1 wba super middle title

    Andre Ward fight # 24 Arthur Abraham 32-2 wba super middle title

    Andre Ward fight # 25 vs Carl Froch unified wba wbc super middle title


    Joe Calzaghe fight # 44 vs Kessler unified super middle title

    Joe Calzaghe fight # 43 vs pete ****ing manfredo jr :rofl

    Joe Calzaghe fight # 31 Mario Veit

    Joe Calzaghe fight # 39 Mario Veit AGAIN :rofl

    Joe Calzaghe fight # 35 tocker pudwill :rofl

    ok...yeah calzaghe was ****ing light years ahead of ward.....shut up dummy
    :lol:
     
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  13. jermainerambo

    jermainerambo Member Full Member

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    :huh:huhall carl froch has done is won joe calzaghe vacant title made 2 defences loss to mikkel kessler then won kessler vacant title by beating an middleweight that just came off a loss then beat a 42yr old man with 14 L L L L L L L L L L L L L L :lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  14. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch will beat Ward, if the final isnt in Oakland, no need for any other european.
     
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  15. jermainerambo

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    WHO IS THE LONGEST-REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION OF THE MODERN ERA?

    WHO WIN THE WBO,WBA,WBC,IBF,IBO AND RING MAGAZINE BELTS AT 168 AN 175?..

    WHO IS THE ONLY ONE IN HISTORY TO BECOME UNDISPUTED SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION?....

    WHO IS THE 1 OUT OF THE 4 MEN IN HISTORY TO HAVE OVER 20 TITLE DEFENCES?.....

    WHO WAS THE SECOND BOXER IN HISTORY TO WIN 3 CONSECUTIVE ABA TITLE AT 3 DIFFERENT WEIGHTS?....

    WHO BEAT THE LONGEST-REIGNING MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION IN HISTORY?..

    WHO IS THE 1 OUT OF ONLY 3 BOXERS IN HISTORY TO BE UNDISPUTED AND UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION?....

    WHO WAS CHAMPION FOR 11YRS AND RETIRED UNDEFEATED 46-0?.....


    joe calzaghe beat a 31yr old guy with over 20 championship fights to become champion


    when has ward, froch or anyone at 168 beat someone with over 20 championship fights?.............:huh

    calzaghe beat 3 guy with over 24 championship fights


    who has ward beat?.......kessler ,bika and Tocker Pudwill little brother shelby pudwill LOL lol

    joe calaghe was 35 when he beat them guys and he did a better job than a 25yr old ward did

    joe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion he has had 24 championship fights has 3 ATGs on his resume
    Roy Jones Jr
    Chris Eubank
    Bernard Hopkins

    Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
    Mark Delaney 21-0
    mikkel kessler 40-0
    Mario Veit 30-0
    jeff lacy 21-0

    joe calzaghe beat 9 world champions

    Chris Eubank, was a 2 weight champion and had 24 world tltle fights

    Richie Woodhall was a 2 weight champion and had 6 world tltle fights

    Roy Jones Jr was a 4 weight champion and had 25 world tltle fights

    Charles Brewer had 7 world tltle fights

    Bernard Hopkins, the best middleweight of all time he has 25 world tltle fights

    Mikkel Kessler, has 11 world tltle fights and is the reigning wbc champion

    Robin Reid had 8 world tltle fights

    Byron Mitchell had 8 world tltle fights

    Jeff Lacy had 7 world tltle fights



    if you add all these world champions title fight up it adds up to 121 world championship title fight


    joe calzaghe fought world class Former world title challengers


    Sakio Bika

    Tocker Pudwill WARD FORGHT HIS LITTLE BROTHER :lol::lol:

    Omar Sheika

    David Starie

    Rick Thornberry

    Evans Ashira

    Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra


    a lot of fighters joe calzaghe fought had a minimum of 20 wins with 1 lost

    YEAH CALZAGHE IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD 46-0=46
     
    jermainerambo, Jun 6, 2011
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