Ortiz will KO Mayweather

JETSKI · Jun 7, 2011

TheAlcatraz said: ↑

I love this fight and Mayweather is taking a $100,000,000 gamble with this one. If we can remove the nuthuggers from the equation for a moment, unbiased observers understand that Ortiz has tremendous fighting skills and he's getting better.

Clearly Mayweather has the ability to teach him a thing or two still. However, Ortiz's chances are quite good in my estimation because he's going to have a number of important physical advantages except reach: youth, height, power, strength, southpaw stance. Mayweather has never fought anyone, as far as I can tell, who's had all of these distinct advantages and, moreover, he's made his career of being the guy going into the fight with the most physical advantages.

Having these advantages won't guarantee victory for Ortiz (or anyone for that matter) But they're significant and worth noting.

Mayweather's intangible advantages--brains, experience, confidence, and 'cool under fire' psychology--are as important as Ortiz's physical advantages. But I would venture to say that we've been acclimated to appreciate them more because he's enjoyed physical advantages over his previous opponents. It's akin to watching a master craftsman perform his art without a deadline hanging over his head. In other words, the physical advantages he's enjoyed against his previous opponents has allowed him the luxury of showcasing his 'artistry' precisely because he isn't under any pressure physically.

Now, the difference maker in this fight, in my opinion, will be how Mayweather's vaunted defense will cope with everything that Ortiz brings. That defense was not crafted for southpaws, hence a resume lightly sprinkled with them. The 'shoulder-roll' clearly is not as effective against southpaws and much has been made about it ad nauseum. However, I don't see it being much of a talking point in this fight simply because I believe that Mayweather is going to stake out the middle of the ring and do a lot more holding than we're used to. If his last three fights are any indication, he's obviously not the same fighter who's impeccable footwork was as impressive as any of his other fighting skills. Mayweather has evolved as he's grown long in the tooth, relying more and more on development of upper body strength that allows him to stay closer for longer. I anticipate a sophisticated 'phone-booth' battle.

I believe that Mayweather will be tested by Ortiz unlike any other fighter before. As I said before, Ortiz's physical advantages are uncharted waters for Mayweather. It's a huge gamble for him and Ortiz is in the enviable position of knowing that all of the pressure is on May come September.
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Absolutely true that all the pressure will be on PBF. Ortiz seems like a free spirit who has his head in a proper place. I don't think he'll get caught up in the moment & just let it all hang out on Floyd's ugly face.

And this one comes the following week after VK vs Adamek!

:bbb

Big Stromboli · Jun 7, 2011

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Floyd Baldomir Pt.2
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Dumbest post of the year

bachatu · Jun 7, 2011

Ortiz is anything but confident.

blai213 · Jun 7, 2011

Ortiz will have to make it a brawl and take him out early on like Hagler on Hearns ... no comparison to skill level obviously.

If Ortiz doesnt hurt May earlier on, May will adjust and school Ortiz to a UD or least likely late TKO. Floyd can't be given the time and space to adjust otherwise it's all over for Ortiz.

This will be a great test for Floyd against a young fast powerful south paw as a tune up if he ever fights Pac.

MAG1965 · Jun 7, 2011

Ortiz will be easy for Floyd to beat. Floyd will have it a little tough the first round or so, and then settle down and stop Ortiz. Yes this fight will be a stoppage win for Floyd similar to Hatton. Floyd should really be fighting Pacman instead of Ortiz. This is another handpicked fight.

Big Stromboli · Jun 7, 2011

TheAlcatraz said: ↑

I love this fight and Mayweather is taking a $100,000,000 gamble with this one. If we can remove the nuthuggers from the equation for a moment, unbiased observers understand that Ortiz has tremendous fighting skills and he's getting better.

Clearly Mayweather has the ability to teach him a thing or two still. However, Ortiz's chances are quite good in my estimation because he's going to have a number of important physical advantages except reach: youth, height, power, strength, southpaw stance. Mayweather has never fought anyone, as far as I can tell, who's had all of these distinct advantages and, moreover, he's made his career of being the guy going into the fight with the most physical advantages.

Having these advantages won't guarantee victory for Ortiz (or anyone for that matter) But they're significant and worth noting.

Mayweather's intangible advantages--brains, experience, confidence, and 'cool under fire' psychology--are as important as Ortiz's physical advantages. But I would venture to say that we've been acclimated to appreciate them more because he's enjoyed physical advantages over his previous opponents. It's akin to watching a master craftsman perform his art without a deadline hanging over his head. In other words, the physical advantages he's enjoyed against his previous opponents has allowed him the luxury of showcasing his 'artistry' precisely because he isn't under any pressure physically.

Now, the difference maker in this fight, in my opinion, will be how Mayweather's vaunted defense will cope with everything that Ortiz brings. That defense was not crafted for southpaws, hence a resume lightly sprinkled with them. The 'shoulder-roll' clearly is not as effective against southpaws and much has been made about it ad nauseum. However, I don't see it being much of a talking point in this fight simply because I believe that Mayweather is going to stake out the middle of the ring and do a lot more holding than we're used to. If his last three fights are any indication, he's obviously not the same fighter who's impeccable footwork was as impressive as any of his other fighting skills. Mayweather has evolved as he's grown long in the tooth, relying more and more on development of upper body strength that allows him to stay closer for longer. I anticipate a sophisticated 'phone-booth' battle.

I believe that Mayweather will be tested by Ortiz unlike any other fighter before. As I said before, Ortiz's physical advantages are uncharted waters for Mayweather. It's a huge gamble for him and Ortiz is in the enviable position of knowing that all of the pressure is on May come September.
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Great post

TrollWarlord · Jun 8, 2011

Big Stromboli said: ↑

Remember where ya heard it first. A young, confident, motivated, talented southpaw, who will come into the ring @ 160lbs.+

Once Ortiz hurts him, he'll finish him.
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If Floyd is sleeping to his bed then for sure he can knock him out. It's a tune up fight and IT WILL NOT BE COMPETITIVE because of Floyd boxing skills. It just only for preparation for pacquiao. Good to have him back though, looks like Pacquiao vs Mayweather is on horizon if Pacquiao manhandle Marquez style easily.

Real_Truth · Jun 8, 2011

One can only hope....but it ain't happening.

Real_Truth · Jun 8, 2011

MAG1965 said: ↑

Ortiz will be easy for Floyd to beat. Floyd will have it a little tough the first round or so, and then settle down and stop Ortiz.
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. Floyd should really be fighting Pacman instead of Ortiz. This is another handpicked fight.
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Lifetime ban bet that this doesn't happen?

tinorknitz · Jun 8, 2011

Some *****s here hyping Ortiz. Why am I not surprised.

FORMIDABLE · Jun 8, 2011

lol, how? ortiz has no jab, comes in wild, chin up. this baldomir all over, only Floyd actually has a chance at a stoppage here

greasylightning · Jun 8, 2011

anybody see what happened to chico's attempts at bumrushing floyd?

Goro · Jun 8, 2011

I will laugh my ass off if Ortiz KO's Mayweather

GrCh · Jun 8, 2011

tinorknitz said: ↑

Some *****s here hyping Ortiz. Why am I not surprised.
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This is boxing.. Ortiz may not be the best opponent in the world for Floyd, but Floyd isn't unbeatable either. Hatton had no problem engaging Mayweather, though his search for success was difficult. Ortiz IMO is a far better offensive fighter then Hatton and he is capable of the same relentless mauling style. De La Hoya was also able to somewhat dilute Mayweathers boxing powers by simply pressuring him behind a good jab and his hands held high.

Mayweather has proven in the past to be very capable of adapting and making adjustments(Its all I hear people talking about really) but that doesn't mean the same **** that happens to other boxers can't happen to him on any given night, he's not unbeatable.

psychopath · Jun 8, 2011

Probably not.

It's most likely that Ortiz will run out of gas trying to catch the guy.

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