Look I already dread the "Wlad is now #1 ATG after he beat Haye" threads. There will be dozens of them should Wlad win. It will be horrible. Then again you know what? If Haye wins there'll be dozens of morons from the Brit forums posting stuff like "Haye is the best British fighter ever" or "Where does Haye now rank in the HW top 10 ATG" etc. etc. So IMO one fan group (of whoever loses) will be knocked down and shut up for a while as the other one (the winning group) will go into ridiculous overdrive and go beserk with lunatic threads.
why? the majority of people I see you accuse of being Haye fans have picked Wlad to win. The rest have given a breakdown of why they think Haye will win. What exactly is going to change?
British people don't really rate Haye that highly, honestly. if he wins, expect a few troll threads about how "great" he is but the majority will just be aimed at the Klitschko fans and mocking their pizza jokes and stuff.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=290872&page=10 a lot easier maybe you should read the bull**** you posted on the matter.. Also You did not know there was a rematch clause or that he had signed away rights to valuev's promoter tell me what did you know regarding these actual facts in the negotiations regarding that fight? Originally Posted by Jack This content is protected Are you stupid or something? I listed several fights earlier which were open to the public. And Haye/Valuev was public, yes. We knew the details of the negotiations during the time they were happening. As for Haye/Harrison and Haye/Barrett, I don't know what details came out, honestly. The one thing I do know though, is that it wasn't written in the contract that it should be private. Your definition of public negotiations is completely different to mine. You're assuming that the press get to read every contract, right? I'm not. I think that if a promoters wants to give out details, that's public but it's essentially their choice. Private is the opposite of that, obviously, where a fighter is banned from talking to the press. Let's ignore the public/private thing because our definition varies and keep it limited to this: Which other promoters throughout the history of boxing, have demanded that any details should not be realeased to the press? Specifically, which fights were negotiated privately because one side threatened to sue the other, if any details were released? Reality checking in again which fights were none of those you named were they did not negotiate in public certain parts were leaked to the public :deal as for Valuev Haye you are so full of **** the fight was negotiated in private what details did we know again Remember according to you when the fight was first announced there was no rematch clause in the fight, Also how the hell were they public when it was negotiated in secret when he was hiding from Vitaly. in the negotiations up to Vaulev haye did you know haye signed away rights to Saurland... no matter of fact you along with many other brits claimed it was a lie when it was released much like rematch clause. :deal And again jack you need to take off your union jack goggles there was no restriction to information being released it wasnt like he could not talk about the fight to the press only certain things which again if you have ever been privy to a legal contract you would know that most things are kept under wraps it is a standard practice. You sit there and claim no other promoters have had confidentiality in there contracts but have no proof you just make up facts you have never seen a contract you dont know what the hell was agreed to so you are just blowing smoke out of your ass all the details that were released were what is normally released for a fight. Also what details did you know of valuev-Haye, Barrett- Haye, Ruiz-Haye and Haye harrison during negotiations? We knew all this about the klit-haye fight the monetary split who had what ring corner their choice of doctors, who walks out first and information on judge selection information on rematch. a hell of a lot more then the other fights which were supoosedly "public" according to you. Name any of those fights where you knew more then that information while it was in negotiations? truth is that all the details that are normally discussed are out in the open the small details are not open to public knowledge the klits are no different then any other promoter.. Don king
There has never, in the history of boxing, been a fight where every specific detail was given to the press. The idea that public negotiations are where the press are privy to absolutely everything is ridiculous because that's never happened. This content is protected What Booth was most likely asking for when he asked for it to be public, was in reality "not private". The Klitschko contracts are always private and Booth obviously wanted freedom to talk to the press, which the Klitschko's wouldn't allow. This content is protected This content is protected But, yeah, if you seriously think public negotiations means that every single thing gets released to the press, you're way off the mark. Public negotiations in boxing terms, are when a promoter or fighter can talk to the press if they choose to. This content is protected This content is protected
I have never seen a single "Wlad is #1 ATG" thread in all of my years on ESB. If you ever notice. All of the Wlad vs [insert great ATG] threads are started by posters who are NOT Wlad fans. Yet somehow... the Wlad fans gets bashed for them. Just like back when Wlad vs Brewster I went down... all of the Wlad haters would start threads talking about vaseline, little green men, ect... and somehow... they tricked themselves into believing that it was the Wlad fans doing it. Wlad haters are much more rabid than Wlad fans. To be honest... Klitschko fans are some of the most laid back posters on this site. Even though the haters would love to constantly post otherwise... over.... and over.... and over again. (as they insert naked pics of Wlad and Vitali into their posts)
I'm flattered to have made your list, especially in at number 1 no less. Jackie, you ignorant slut, it's the anti-Klitschko fans like you that ruin the sport. You're still waiting for some ghetto thug gansta wannabe from your dreams to clean up the division. You ignore the fact that you've witnessed history thanks to the Klitschko brothers. It's harder to unify the belts now than it ever has been in the history of the sport and Wlad is almost there.
Yep Klitschko fans are the worst fans by far. I actually like both Klitschkos very much but I cant stand their fans. This whole ''Pizzaface'' thing pretty much sums how ******ed they are.
Krizshao, I didn't read any of that post. After I saw who it was by and who it was directed against, I ignored it. You're too biased to talk to.