Article: "Mayweather Diminished By Avoiding Pacquiao"

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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/...ME=boxing/11/06/08/BOXING_Column.html&BID=543

    This writer takes the same tact as the panelists on ESPN's "Around The Horn" program yesterday. Namely, he/she believes that in choosing to fight "average" opponent Victor Ortiz, Mayweather is avoiding the larger challenge of squaring off with current pound-for-pound king, Manny Pacquiao:

    This writer, like the ESPN panelists, obviously is not buying Mayweather's drug testing rationale for the Pacquiao fight not occurring.

    Is Floyd "tarnishing his legacy" by continuing to fight on without facing Pacquiao? What do you think?
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    if the fight never happens, yes. just like everyone takes it as a given that leonard waited for hagler to decline, everyone will take it as a given that floyd did not want to fight pac. there are floyd fans who will argue for floyd just like leonard fans argue for ray but everyone else sees past the bull****.
     
  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It seems as though most of the columnists weighing in on the situation so far have come down on the "Floyd is ducking Pacquiao" side. I guess we'll see where things go from here.

    As I've said in other places, I do not think that Pacquiao-Mayweather ever gets made. So, I think the fight is over who gets blamed for it not happening.

    So far, it appears as though Mayweather is on the losing end of that argument.
     
  4. DrTrouble

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    I don't know about tarnishing his legacy because, as a rational Pac fan, I feel both sides are to blame for this fiasco. But I've said it before, this is a brilliant move by Floyd if he's not fighting Pac. The perception will be he's fighting a young, hungry kid who just came off a defining win. Floyd did the same with the Mosely fight. Fact is, Ortiz is not that good yet and Mosely was past his prime.
     
  5. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, it's a smart business move by Floyd: Relatively easy fight; you get to go through the whole public song-and-dance about OSDT to try to tweak Pacquiao; tap the Latino market for some good PPV numbers; get back in the scene.

    Good choice by him. I'm not sure this bout will matter much to the sports opinion makers, but Floyd seems to have lost most of them long ago.
     
  6. dodong

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    i think Pac has the upper hand at this point. Floyd's legacy will be tarnished if the doesn't fight Manny.
     
  7. hofbrau

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    the title is misleading for the *****s but it's really true
     
  8. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think one of the potential benefits, from Floyd's perspective, of fighting Ortiz is that Floyd gets to keep hammering the entire OSDT theme. This may help change a few minds about who is to blame for Pac-Floyd not happening.

    It seems like an uphill fight for Floyd though, particularly after the "cook cats and dogs" video and the rap sheet Floyd has accumulated. That is, many fans probably aren't likely to give Floyd the benefit of the doubt, even if they aren't sure about the whole OSDT issue.
     
  9. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I put the title of the article as it came up in Google News. The writer or his editor put a different title on the article's page. My guess is that the title of the thread was the original title of the article, and then it got switched later.
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    take the test, ya midget, and stop the bs already. pac is suspect for not taking the test. Ortiz said any day, any time, any where to berto. Pac has instead put on a lawsuit and avoided fighting mayweather because of the random blood testing. Pac is suspect until he proves everyone wrong by taking the test. Mayweathers will not bend until pac takes the test. The world wants to know why pac doesnt want to take the test. *******s keep saying mayweather is a punk ass ***** for demanding a test, but, he has a point. Because pac was so hesistant to take it from the beginning of this shin ding. he came out with excuses, he is araid of needles, it weakens him, he doesnt have to take the test 'cause he is clean, yada yada yada. Bs excuses. yet people still buy his bs. people are pathetic for standing behind this prima donna. oh, he agreed to the testing, bs lies. if he agreed, al haymon would of called arum and we would have a fight already. people got to stop hating floyd because of who he is. the double standards against him are ridiculous. Floyd has exposed pac for what he is. Take the test, and stop the bs that floyd is ducking him. pathetic
     
  11. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By that logic, Hopkins is also suspect. I just can't go with that "logic." Hopkins -- to clear his name, supposedly -- could have agreed to take testing even though it wasn't in the contract. He did not. I don't think less of Hopkins.

    Pacquiao supposedly agreed to do testing, and supposedly agreed to a cut-off date that satisfied Mayweather's medical expert(s). The drug testing card has never held much weight for me, given these points.

    I never felt like Floyd wanted the fight, at least after Cotto-Pac. I understand that, and understand why there could be a need to try to place a public relations smokescreen up to give Floyd and his reputation cover if he decided not to face Pacquiao.
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    calm down killer, he already said he would. he would like a fight with floyd in order to do it though.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    Close thread.:clap:
     
  14. Boxing Fanatic

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    everybody takes the test to fight mayweather, why cant manny?
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I can think of 40 guys who didn't... :lol: