Article: "Mayweather Diminished By Avoiding Pacquiao"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by paulfv, Jun 8, 2011.


  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    You ever wondered why it's always the *******s who claims Pac doesn't need PBF for his legacy and he should tell him to **** himself about the testing issue? I'll tell you why because deep down inside they know PBF is a stylistic hell for Pac and will school his limited and flawed ass if they ever step foot in the ring together.:deal You never hear PBF fans say PBF should just move on. Why? Because we want the fight to happen and all know PBF kicks Pacs ass that's why.:deal *******s don't want this fight to take place and many have even gone on record saying PBF would beat Pac by UD.
     
  2. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gotcha! Although the blood excuse by Pac was after a round of excuses already... But we'll accept that as the real excuse!

    No that's not what's going down. First negotiations Mayweather did this by accepting 14 days out, which Arum said they were not offered but later backtracked and said they were indeed offered that. Pac said **** you and fought Clottey instead. Floyd then said no cutoff. That's where we are now. Cutoff is gone, no matter how much you all want it. That's why Floyd won't sign off on it.
     
  3. terp

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    here you go:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJrqFGpn0ZM[/ame]

    pac blames loss to morales to drawing blood 2 days prior
     
  4. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is that not logical? What's not logical about what he said?
     
  5. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think that either guy really wants to fight, hopefully it'll happen for the fans though.
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I think you misunderstand. What Mayweather wants and what Mayweather gets aren't the same thing. That's why you have a negotiation.

    Now, if you want to avoid fighting a guy and you know he has an issue with blood testing, you say there is no cut-off date. That way, you can look as though you really wanted the fight when you may not have.

    However, if you want to get a fight made, you negotiate. And, again -- I'm not sure which round of negotiations this was, but I think it was the second round -- Mayweather's medical expert(s) supposedly said 14-21 days was "ok" in terms of cancelling out any PED effect.

    And, supposedly, Floyd balked. Thus, no fight. Even though Manny stepped towards Floyd on the non-mandatory (for boxing commissions) demand.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol: Dude, it's FANTASY first of all. The police don't, nor would they ever, implement something like that. It's almost childish what Ceej said.
     
  8. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is boxing. How it works

    DLH,Hatton,Cotto,Clottey,Margo,Shane,JMM and many more, they did not ask for special testings. These are real men of boxing.
     
  9. Bravado

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    Not sure why Manny gets to ask for what he wants and its ok

    Yet when Floyd does, he's a bad guy. The tests are to make sure he isn't cheating


    So what if Floyd never asked anybody else to take a test prior to Manny.

    Would you want to fight a cheater?

    Should you be called a coward for fighting a potential cheater?

    Would you want to do anything that can result in you having uneven odds that make your battle a lot harder while the person you go against has it easy?
     
  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks. I knew I had seen that interview some time ago. Hopefully, Bazooka will feel better now.

    I still want to look up stuff on EPO in a bit, to close that loop. Others can look it up first, if they want. Questions I have:

    * How long does EPO stay in your bloodstream (how long will it be in your system to show up for a test?)?

    * Are there any urine tests for EPO?

    * Is EPO a "booster" for your endurance, or do you have to train with it for it to have a real effect? That is, does it work like an amphetamine and you get "instant" effects from using it?

    * Can EPO help you within 5-7 days? In a measurable way, if you are basically finished with training camp? Or would trying to train hard that close to a fight hurt you come fight night?
     
  11. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right. Let's go the full 100% here! It's all about cleaning up the sport! :good
     
  12. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather did negotiate. THEY proposed 14 days and Team Pac said no after they wanted no cutoff at first. So that kills ANY bull**** excuse that Floyd wanted to weaken Manny right before the fight. He would have had 2 after any test but his team didn't want the fight.

    After Floyd did testing without a cutoff with Shane he said all future opponents have to take this testing.

    Floyd tries to negotiate and Pac says **** off it's 30 or 24 days or no fight.. But when Pac decides he wants to go down in days Floyd can't say **** off it's no cutoff or nothing or he's ducking Manny?

    Gotcha!! :thumbsup
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    *******s don't care that by Pac not testing it looks suspicious, they just want him to keep winning at all cost. If that means not testing by both men to ensure a clean fight them so be it. If Pac doesn't want it they don't want it.
     
  14. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This one better?
     
  15. evil G

    evil G this_is_box Full Member

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    For what it's worth, I am a Pacquiao fan, I want them to fight, I want to see Floyd get KTFO and Pacquiao is the only man likely to do it.

    Pacquaio should shut up and take the ****ing test.

    Ideally any athlete in any sport should be tested at any point for illegal substances. You have to start somewhere right? There's logistical issues right? Well how about we start with OSDT for any Championship fights.